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• The Anser putter began a long and proud history of truly innovative equipment design throughout Ping’s entire product line (ultimately resulting in over 400 patents) that has set Ping at the top of the list of golf design and manufacturing companies. The company is headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona.

  Technology:Designed to appeal to golfers who prefer the look of a smaller, blade-style club but still rely on the forgiveness of a cavity back. Compact head features, reduced offset and a thin top rail appeal to better players. Rib structure of the Custom Tuning Port (CTP) designed to stabilise the face and improve feel and consistency.

  Weight savings from the new cavity and face structure, positioned on the low toe to provide a high moment of inertia for its blade length.Centre of gravity location creates a low, penetrating ball flight. Available from 2-iron to lob wedge. Ping i10 ironIf only everything in life was reliable as a set of irons. Since the appearance of the G2 some five or six years ago, the company’s range of game-improvement irons has gone from strength to strength. And having raised the bar with the G5 and its sleeker brother, the i5, Ping has arrived at the next number in the sequence.

  This 10 might not be perfect but it’s not far off.With the game-improvement end of the market covered with the G10 and a wonderful offering for the better player , Ping has mercifully not overlooked that tricky middle ground between the higher-handicappers and those with blades in their hands. It’s usually a place where 12-handicappers congregate, uncertain as to which way to turn. For this most demanding of groups, the i10 is perfect.The company’s own blurb is the perfect mission statement: “Designed to appeal to golfers who prefer the look of a smaller, blade-style club but still rely on the forgiveness of a cavity back.” Of course, that covers most golfers with a handicap of less than 20, but the trick for Ping is producing a club that combines visual appeal with the technology needed.They’ve done it in spades, with a new cavity design spreading consistency and solidity right the way across the face. Weight has also been added to the toe to help stabilize the club at impact – a great plus for players who don’t find the middle of the club every time. Placing the CG (centre of gravity) closer to the face than the G10 is also a significant move by Ping engineers. It produces a lower, more penetrating ball flight.The look is a little more conventional than previous models, although with a slightly square design, simple decals and a very workmanlike appearance, the i10 is still unmistakably Ping. At address the simple white alignment aid stands out, the rear cavity is hidden and the moderate topline strikes the perfect balance between overly thick and intimidatingly thin.But what of the performance?

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  It’s all rather predictable really. From fairway and rough the i10 is just so solid. The narrower sole makes crisp striking a formality, and the feeling at impact is so sweet – cushioned but very solid at the same time.

  Unlike many of its rivals, the i10 is not forged, but so good is the company’s casting process that you probably wouldn\'t notice the difference.At £75 a club the i10 is not cheap, but custom-fitting and the option to buy only the clubs you want makes sound financial sense in the longer term. For the 12 handicapper who thinks like a seven handicapper, there are few better irons.

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  I was a long time Ping player until the last several years, and have experimented with Callaway, Titleist, and Nike during that period (along with a few different sets of Pings). I\'d like to start the season fresh but do not feel like dropping the coin for a new set of irons. I know my Ping specs so would try to find a set that matches or is close enough to send to Ping for an adjustment prior to putting them into play.
  I am a mid single digit that has streaks of brilliance followed by long stretches of mediocrity. My main strength is not getting into too much trouble. I am equally capable of good shots and bad shots with any club in my bag, but I would say the mid to short irons are typcially my strength. The past season I played with a half set (9 clubs) and my handicap actually went down by a half stroke.
  I\'ve tried i20\'s and a couple different G series irons and didn\'t like them as much as my old Eye2\'s and Zings. The sole on the G series seemed too wide (didn\'t like the turf interaction) and the i20\'s hit the ball too high and were inconsistent.
  While I am tempted to find a set of Zing2\'s in my specs, the i10\'s I find tend to be reasonably priced and there are a few sets in my specs floating around. How much would I be giving up with the i10\'s vs. something a bit newer (i25\'s, s56-58\'s)? I\'d be willing to spend a bit more if I gain a lot, but if it is pretty even then I do not mind saving a bit of money.
  The biggest negative (to me) is that the grooves are only legal until 2024. While the idea of playing in a state or national competition is appealing, the reality is it will not happen, so that, to me, is not a deal breaker.
  Thanks in advance for any input.
  drn92
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    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
  • edited Apr 9, 2017#3

    Even though I shot my best 9 with a demo set of i10s, they are my least favorite of the i-series. My experience was that they were significantly less forgiving on slight mishits. If you are a really strong iron player, you may be fine. But I found myself short of greens and in hazards with shots that were just a bit off. The 9 where I shot my best ever, I was absolutely throwing darts. But once I lost faith in them, I was done.
    The high ball flight on the 20s may have been a shaft issue. If you could find some zz-65 shafted 20 or 25s, I think they would a much friendlier club than the i10.

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  • #4

    
    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
    

    
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I am too cheap to move into one of the newest Ping irons (I\'d like to say frugal .. but cheap is the right word to use). I may have to keep stalking eBay and the BST for a while to see what shows up.
    I moved to R flex shafts a long time ago (late 30\'s) and have really grown to like them. Distances didn\'t change much, but I found I didn\'t have to work as hard to get the clubs to perform.
    drn92
  • #5

    
    Even though I shot my best 9 with a demo set of i10s, they are my least favorite of the i-series. My experience was that they were significantly less forgiving on slight mishits. If you are a really strong iron player, you may be fine. But I found myself short of greens and in hazards with shots that were just a bit off. The 9 where I shot my best ever, I was absolutely throwing darts. But once I lost faith in them, I was done.
    The high ball flight on the 20s may have been a shaft issue. If you could find some zz-65 shafted 20 or 25s, I think they would a much friendlier club than the i10.
    

    
    Appreciate the reply. ZZ-65\'s are too much shaft for me. In speaking with a Ping rep last year, he mentioned that the i20\'s tended to hit the ball higher due to a few factors.
    drn92
  • Maungakeikei Auckland New ZealandMembersPosts: 2,565✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Great love and reviews always available on I3 and I5, less so i10 but as you say,
    way thinner sole than a G5 ish weapon !
    Grab a set of 3/5/10/15 that are a Fit for you and Play Your Best !!!!
    Grab a G5, G10 or I15 driver while your at it !!
    I went with S58 irons till a year ago i think, for 18 months, moved to BR J33 Cb\'s and loved the J33,
    a highly rated classic on WRX.
    You seem very capable as a Club Ho and on the Course, so Keep it Simple ! Best wishes, Roger

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  • edited Apr 10, 2017#7

    The old Pings are bullet proof, so finding a good set for cheap is pretty easy.
    I have a few sets of the newer Ping\'s and some older ones.
    I have played a few rounds with both the i10\'s and the i3\'s. For me the i3\'s are a better choice.
    I have never hit the i5\'s but have read some glowing reviews on them.
    The eye 2\'s are probably the best choice in the older sets, but my BC Zings are probably the easiest to hit and so **** accurate. My digger swing can take some nasty divots tho.
    The S58\'s are worth looking into as well. iE1\'s are fantastic, and prices are dropping.
    If u really have your heart set on the i10\'s private message me as i have 2 sets and will likely sell one of them. Also i have some i3 pluses.
    Best of luck in your search.
  • #8

    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
  • #9

    I played a set for 2 seasons - I liked them a lot, but they didn\'t have the distances you\'ll get from more current I\'s for the reasons stated above. They were forgiving-ish, and when I transitioned to S59\'s, I hit the ball as consistently - I attribute that to the demands the I10\'s made for a repeatable swing.

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  • #10

    
    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
    

    
    Thanks .. appreciate the feedback. I have not looked at lofts recently, but play \'old school\' lofts right now in my back-up set. My PW is 48 degrees, which is at least a club weak compared to the latest and greatest. In looking at the i10 specs, my 4 iron matches, and my wedge is 2 degrees weaker, so it appears the gapping had been compressed slightly as the irons get shorter.
    Good to know.
    drn92
  • #11

    
    I played a set for 2 seasons - I liked them a lot, but they didn\'t have the distances you\'ll get from more current I\'s for the reasons stated above. They were forgiving-ish, and when I transitioned to S59\'s, I hit the ball as consistently - I attribute that to the demands the I10\'s made for a repeatable swing.
    

    
    I had a set of S59\'s at one point. Loved the short irons, but the shafts were ZZ-65\'s .. way too much shaft for me (especially now).
    Appreciate the feedback.
    drn92
  • #12

    
    Great love and reviews always available on I3 and I5, less so i10 but as you say,
    way thinner sole than a G5 ish weapon !
    Grab a set of 3/5/10/15 that are a Fit for you and Play Your Best !!!!
    Grab a G5, G10 or I15 driver while your at it !!
    I went with S58 irons till a year ago i think, for 18 months, moved to BR J33 Cb\'s and loved the J33,
    a highly rated classic on WRX.
    You seem very capable as a Club Ho and on the Course, so Keep it Simple ! Best wishes, Roger
    

    
    The Club Ho part, unfortunately, negatively impacts my score as much as not playing! Sometimes I wonder if I would be shooting the same scores today with my old Pings ..
    drn92
  • #13

    
    The old Pings are bullet proof, so finding a good set for cheap is pretty easy.
    I have a few sets of the newer Ping\'s and some older ones.
    I have played a few rounds with both the i10\'s and the i3\'s. For me the i3\'s are a better choice.
    I have never hit the i5\'s but have read some glowing reviews on them.
    The eye 2\'s are probably the best choice in the older sets, but my BC Zings are probably the easiest to hit and so **** accurate. My digger swing can take some nasty divots tho.
    The S58\'s are worth looking into as well. iE1\'s are fantastic, and prices are dropping.
    If u really have your heart set on the i10\'s private message me as i have 2 sets and will likely sell one of them. Also i have some i3 pluses.
    Best of luck in your search.
    

    
    Good to know on the iE1\'s and S58\'s. That will broaden my search a bit.
    I hear you on the Zings. I had a set (emphasis on had) and of all the irons I\'ve played they were the set that I remember stuffing iron shots. Two of the three flags I\'ve hit cam with Zings in the bag.
    I have tried i3\'s and i3+, seem to like the + version a bit more. My brother has some i5\'s that are very nice. They do not seem to come up as much on my searches.
    Thanks, drn92
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    ie1, i20 and i5. All nice. Just depends on what your budget really is. If you are looking to stay on the inexpensive side of things, at this point, you can get i20\'s in close to the same price range is i5\'s. But, with the right shaft, the i5\'s still perform as well as anything.

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  • edited Apr 10, 2017#15

    
    

    
    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
    

    
    Thanks .. appreciate the feedback. I have not looked at lofts recently, but play \'old school\' lofts right now in my back-up set. My PW is 48 degrees, which is at least a club weak compared to the latest and greatest. In looking at the i10 specs, my 4 iron matches, and my wedge is 2 degrees weaker, so it appears the gapping had been compressed slightly as the irons get shorter.
    Good to know.
    drn92
    

    
    Yeah if you are playing the old school clubs now, then there should not be much difference. For me I preferred their size and some forgiveness but still made me learn how to hit the ball! /smile.png\' alt=\':)\' />
    Also see that the i5\'s being mentioned and have to say those are nice irons too but to me just a step down from the i10\'s but good so I wouldn\'t hesitate for get either one if you find a good price on them!
    Does Ping still support or should I say allow you to get replacement clubs and/or fix them if they get damaged? They are pretty old irons now so just wondered on what support is still offered!
  • #16

    
    

    
    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
    

    
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I am too cheap to move into one of the newest Ping irons (I\'d like to say frugal .. but cheap is the right word to use). I may have to keep stalking eBay and the BST for a while to see what shows up.
    I moved to R flex shafts a long time ago (late 30\'s) and have really grown to like them. Distances didn\'t change much, but I found I didn\'t have to work as hard to get the clubs to perform.
    drn92
    

    I understand the frugal comment completely. I recently saw a set of Ping ie1 irons for $350.00 and a set of I-25 for $290.00 + Shipping Looking outside of Ping my brother in-law just bought a set of New! Talormade irons Forged RSI irons 4-PW with KBS shafts for just over $400.00 and he is throwing darts with them. The newer models can be purchased with a budget in mind if you are willing to take your time and explore all avenues, he got these in a pro-shop after a round he said they stacked in a corner with a Sale sign taped to them he went to the range with the 6 iron hit a few balls walked in and asked how much he said the price was so good he didn\'t argue and walked out with them. Look for trade in deals where they double your trade-in value towards a new set, my son did this with his I-25 irons when they were the new model. The BST here is another great place to keep looking, and I buy here with confidence that I am purchasing authentic product. Best of luck keep us posted.
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    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
    

    
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I am too cheap to move into one of the newest Ping irons (I\'d like to say frugal .. but cheap is the right word to use). I may have to keep stalking eBay and the BST for a while to see what shows up.
    I moved to R flex shafts a long time ago (late 30\'s) and have really grown to like them. Distances didn\'t change much, but I found I didn\'t have to work as hard to get the clubs to perform.
    drn92
    

    I understand the frugal comment completely. I recently saw a set of Ping ie1 irons for $350.00 and a set of I-25 for $290.00 + Shipping Looking outside of Ping my brother in-law just bought a set of New! Talormade irons Forged RSI irons 4-PW with KBS shafts for just over $400.00 and he is throwing darts with them. The newer models can be purchased with a budget in mind if you are willing to take your time and explore all avenues, he got these in a pro-shop after a round he said they stacked in a corner with a Sale sign taped to them he went to the range with the 6 iron hit a few balls walked in and asked how much he said the price was so good he didn\'t argue and walked out with them. Look for trade in deals where they double your trade-in value towards a new set, my son did this with his I-25 irons when they were the new model. The BST here is another great place to keep looking, and I buy here with confidence that I am purchasing authentic product. Best of luck keep us posted.
    

    
    Yep, I am cheap! I just need to keep stalking the various sites and keep my eyes open.
    I came across a set of Eye2\'s many years ago at a local Golfsmith. Great shape, new grips, and $99 for 3-W. Couldn\'t pass them up, and now they are with my younger brother since the ZZ-Lite shafts are now too stiff.
    drn92
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    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
    

    
    Thanks .. appreciate the feedback. I have not looked at lofts recently, but play \'old school\' lofts right now in my back-up set. My PW is 48 degrees, which is at least a club weak compared to the latest and greatest. In looking at the i10 specs, my 4 iron matches, and my wedge is 2 degrees weaker, so it appears the gapping had been compressed slightly as the irons get shorter.
    Good to know.
    drn92
    

    
    Yeah if you are playing the old school clubs now, then there should not be much difference. For me I preferred their size and some forgiveness but still made me learn how to hit the ball! /smile.png\' alt=\':)\' />
    Also see that the i5\'s being mentioned and have to say those are nice irons too but to me just a step down from the i10\'s but good so I wouldn\'t hesitate for get either one if you find a good price on them!
    Does Ping still support or should I say allow you to get replacement clubs and/or fix them if they get damaged? They are pretty old irons now so just wondered on what support is still offered!
    

    
    I grew up on Powerbilt Scotch Blades and Wilson Staffs .. Almost anything looks forgiving next to those!
    I think Ping offers support when stock is available, but I am pretty sure they are not making any new i10 heads. I know that almost any club can be reshafted, retumbled, and have the swingweight adjusted if needed.
    drn92
  • #19

    Update .. with new irons on the way.
    Found a deal today on some s56\'s that are in my specs (or close enough that I can adjust the lie if needed). They are on the way and hopefully will be in my bag by Thursday.
    The advancements in design and MOI plus the conforming grooves swung the decision in the s56\'s favor.
    Thanks all for the input on my question.
    drn92
  • #20

    If it\'s a money thing take a look at the i15\'s. Having played the 10\'s and 15\'s the later are a bit more forgiving and longer while maintaining a thinner sole and top line then its G counterpart.
  • #21

    Congrats on the new clubs
    I played the I10\'s for 2 seasons and never really loved them. Found them to be fairly harsh for a Ping iron and not overly forgiving. They are the redheaded stepchild of the Ping lineup because they were essentially obsoleted when the S57 came out shortly into their lifecycle. I am pretty sure if i recall the S57 had higher MOI and playability despite a slightly smaller head. The I10 was too close to their own players club, and guys wanting forgiviness had the G\'s to look at. They were a weird release, and unique in how small they were compared to most I\'s

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  • #22

    
    Congrats on the new clubs
    I played the I10\'s for 2 seasons and never really loved them. Found them to be fairly harsh for a Ping iron and not overly forgiving. They are the redheaded stepchild of the Ping lineup because they were essentially obsoleted when the S57 came out shortly into their lifecycle. I am pretty sure if i recall the S57 had higher MOI and playability despite a slightly smaller head. The I10 was too close to their own players club, and guys wanting forgiviness had the G\'s to look at. They were a weird release, and unique in how small they were compared to most I\'s
    

    
    They looked SO good though. Like a lot of people, I thought they were going to pack the i-5 forgiveness in a smaller/sexier head. Instead, they were a big drop in forgiveness and didn\'t feel great either. Redheaded stepchild is a perfect description.

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  • #23

    
    Congrats on the new clubs
    I played the I10\'s for 2 seasons and never really loved them. Found them to be fairly harsh for a Ping iron and not overly forgiving.
    

    
    As someone who gamed a combo set of g10/i10\'s, g15/i10\'s for most of this decade (a big thank you to you and some others for that) it is probably ironic that the G\'s are gone but the I10\'s will always remain. A perfect range sharpener and indestructible practice club that still finds its way into the low end of the bag on occasion. A good looker and forgiving for the thin miss if not an all rounder.
    Echoing the congrats on the S56, another fine choice.
  • #24

    Love my I10 irons! If you like a compact head with less offset then I cannot think of a better ping offering. The I3 blade would be a close second but no other ping iron, old or new IMHO can compare to them. There has been lots of talk about losing distance compared to other ping models but if you have the same shaft and same loft and can hit the ball in the middle of the club face most of the time, then you should not see any difference in distance. For example, I took an I10 7 iron and an i5 7 iron both shafted with AWT stiff, both black dot and both with the same loft and hit them to a towel that I placed out at 160 yards. Every ball that I hit landed within feet of each other. The only difference that I noticed was that looking down at the I5 was to me, like looking down at a shovel. I have tried to kick the I10s out of the bag but they always find their way back in. I realize that I am in the WRX minority but it\'s all good when I\'m finding fairways and greens!
  • #25

    Play them if you like them, I found them to be unforgiving. You would love the s55.
  • #26

    Get i5 irons- they are legendary. I played them for 7 years before switching to Mizuno MP-53s (another classic iron). The i10 and i15s were a disappointment compared to the i5s and why many did not make the switch and until the i20s and beyond (or switched to a different OEM like I did).
    Unless you are trying to buy used/cheaper.. why not the i200. I think they are the chip off the old i5 block and almost made me switch back from Mizzy irons. i200 look simple, solid, the right offset, are forgiving, and a new classic. Good luck.

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  ...'>Ping I10 8 Iron(24.02.2020)

• The Anser putter began a long and proud history of truly innovative equipment design throughout Ping’s entire product line (ultimately resulting in over 400 patents) that has set Ping at the top of the list of golf design and manufacturing companies. The company is headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona.

  Technology:Designed to appeal to golfers who prefer the look of a smaller, blade-style club but still rely on the forgiveness of a cavity back. Compact head features, reduced offset and a thin top rail appeal to better players. Rib structure of the Custom Tuning Port (CTP) designed to stabilise the face and improve feel and consistency.

  Weight savings from the new cavity and face structure, positioned on the low toe to provide a high moment of inertia for its blade length.Centre of gravity location creates a low, penetrating ball flight. Available from 2-iron to lob wedge. Ping i10 ironIf only everything in life was reliable as a set of irons. Since the appearance of the G2 some five or six years ago, the company’s range of game-improvement irons has gone from strength to strength. And having raised the bar with the G5 and its sleeker brother, the i5, Ping has arrived at the next number in the sequence.

  This 10 might not be perfect but it’s not far off.With the game-improvement end of the market covered with the G10 and a wonderful offering for the better player , Ping has mercifully not overlooked that tricky middle ground between the higher-handicappers and those with blades in their hands. It’s usually a place where 12-handicappers congregate, uncertain as to which way to turn. For this most demanding of groups, the i10 is perfect.The company’s own blurb is the perfect mission statement: “Designed to appeal to golfers who prefer the look of a smaller, blade-style club but still rely on the forgiveness of a cavity back.” Of course, that covers most golfers with a handicap of less than 20, but the trick for Ping is producing a club that combines visual appeal with the technology needed.They’ve done it in spades, with a new cavity design spreading consistency and solidity right the way across the face. Weight has also been added to the toe to help stabilize the club at impact – a great plus for players who don’t find the middle of the club every time. Placing the CG (centre of gravity) closer to the face than the G10 is also a significant move by Ping engineers. It produces a lower, more penetrating ball flight.The look is a little more conventional than previous models, although with a slightly square design, simple decals and a very workmanlike appearance, the i10 is still unmistakably Ping. At address the simple white alignment aid stands out, the rear cavity is hidden and the moderate topline strikes the perfect balance between overly thick and intimidatingly thin.But what of the performance?

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  It’s all rather predictable really. From fairway and rough the i10 is just so solid. The narrower sole makes crisp striking a formality, and the feeling at impact is so sweet – cushioned but very solid at the same time.

  Unlike many of its rivals, the i10 is not forged, but so good is the company’s casting process that you probably wouldn\'t notice the difference.At £75 a club the i10 is not cheap, but custom-fitting and the option to buy only the clubs you want makes sound financial sense in the longer term. For the 12 handicapper who thinks like a seven handicapper, there are few better irons.

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  I was a long time Ping player until the last several years, and have experimented with Callaway, Titleist, and Nike during that period (along with a few different sets of Pings). I\'d like to start the season fresh but do not feel like dropping the coin for a new set of irons. I know my Ping specs so would try to find a set that matches or is close enough to send to Ping for an adjustment prior to putting them into play.
  I am a mid single digit that has streaks of brilliance followed by long stretches of mediocrity. My main strength is not getting into too much trouble. I am equally capable of good shots and bad shots with any club in my bag, but I would say the mid to short irons are typcially my strength. The past season I played with a half set (9 clubs) and my handicap actually went down by a half stroke.
  I\'ve tried i20\'s and a couple different G series irons and didn\'t like them as much as my old Eye2\'s and Zings. The sole on the G series seemed too wide (didn\'t like the turf interaction) and the i20\'s hit the ball too high and were inconsistent.
  While I am tempted to find a set of Zing2\'s in my specs, the i10\'s I find tend to be reasonably priced and there are a few sets in my specs floating around. How much would I be giving up with the i10\'s vs. something a bit newer (i25\'s, s56-58\'s)? I\'d be willing to spend a bit more if I gain a lot, but if it is pretty even then I do not mind saving a bit of money.
  The biggest negative (to me) is that the grooves are only legal until 2024. While the idea of playing in a state or national competition is appealing, the reality is it will not happen, so that, to me, is not a deal breaker.
  Thanks in advance for any input.
  drn92
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  • #2

    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
  • edited Apr 9, 2017#3

    Even though I shot my best 9 with a demo set of i10s, they are my least favorite of the i-series. My experience was that they were significantly less forgiving on slight mishits. If you are a really strong iron player, you may be fine. But I found myself short of greens and in hazards with shots that were just a bit off. The 9 where I shot my best ever, I was absolutely throwing darts. But once I lost faith in them, I was done.
    The high ball flight on the 20s may have been a shaft issue. If you could find some zz-65 shafted 20 or 25s, I think they would a much friendlier club than the i10.

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    PING G400 5-Wood
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    PING Glide ES 58*
    PING Sigma 2 Fetch
    Callaway Chrome Soft TruVis
    
  • #4

    
    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
    

    
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I am too cheap to move into one of the newest Ping irons (I\'d like to say frugal .. but cheap is the right word to use). I may have to keep stalking eBay and the BST for a while to see what shows up.
    I moved to R flex shafts a long time ago (late 30\'s) and have really grown to like them. Distances didn\'t change much, but I found I didn\'t have to work as hard to get the clubs to perform.
    drn92
  • #5

    
    Even though I shot my best 9 with a demo set of i10s, they are my least favorite of the i-series. My experience was that they were significantly less forgiving on slight mishits. If you are a really strong iron player, you may be fine. But I found myself short of greens and in hazards with shots that were just a bit off. The 9 where I shot my best ever, I was absolutely throwing darts. But once I lost faith in them, I was done.
    The high ball flight on the 20s may have been a shaft issue. If you could find some zz-65 shafted 20 or 25s, I think they would a much friendlier club than the i10.
    

    
    Appreciate the reply. ZZ-65\'s are too much shaft for me. In speaking with a Ping rep last year, he mentioned that the i20\'s tended to hit the ball higher due to a few factors.
    drn92
  • Maungakeikei Auckland New ZealandMembersPosts: 2,565✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Great love and reviews always available on I3 and I5, less so i10 but as you say,
    way thinner sole than a G5 ish weapon !
    Grab a set of 3/5/10/15 that are a Fit for you and Play Your Best !!!!
    Grab a G5, G10 or I15 driver while your at it !!
    I went with S58 irons till a year ago i think, for 18 months, moved to BR J33 Cb\'s and loved the J33,
    a highly rated classic on WRX.
    You seem very capable as a Club Ho and on the Course, so Keep it Simple ! Best wishes, Roger

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  • edited Apr 10, 2017#7

    The old Pings are bullet proof, so finding a good set for cheap is pretty easy.
    I have a few sets of the newer Ping\'s and some older ones.
    I have played a few rounds with both the i10\'s and the i3\'s. For me the i3\'s are a better choice.
    I have never hit the i5\'s but have read some glowing reviews on them.
    The eye 2\'s are probably the best choice in the older sets, but my BC Zings are probably the easiest to hit and so **** accurate. My digger swing can take some nasty divots tho.
    The S58\'s are worth looking into as well. iE1\'s are fantastic, and prices are dropping.
    If u really have your heart set on the i10\'s private message me as i have 2 sets and will likely sell one of them. Also i have some i3 pluses.
    Best of luck in your search.
  • #8

    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
  • #9

    I played a set for 2 seasons - I liked them a lot, but they didn\'t have the distances you\'ll get from more current I\'s for the reasons stated above. They were forgiving-ish, and when I transitioned to S59\'s, I hit the ball as consistently - I attribute that to the demands the I10\'s made for a repeatable swing.

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  • #10

    
    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
    

    
    Thanks .. appreciate the feedback. I have not looked at lofts recently, but play \'old school\' lofts right now in my back-up set. My PW is 48 degrees, which is at least a club weak compared to the latest and greatest. In looking at the i10 specs, my 4 iron matches, and my wedge is 2 degrees weaker, so it appears the gapping had been compressed slightly as the irons get shorter.
    Good to know.
    drn92
  • #11

    
    I played a set for 2 seasons - I liked them a lot, but they didn\'t have the distances you\'ll get from more current I\'s for the reasons stated above. They were forgiving-ish, and when I transitioned to S59\'s, I hit the ball as consistently - I attribute that to the demands the I10\'s made for a repeatable swing.
    

    
    I had a set of S59\'s at one point. Loved the short irons, but the shafts were ZZ-65\'s .. way too much shaft for me (especially now).
    Appreciate the feedback.
    drn92
  • #12

    
    Great love and reviews always available on I3 and I5, less so i10 but as you say,
    way thinner sole than a G5 ish weapon !
    Grab a set of 3/5/10/15 that are a Fit for you and Play Your Best !!!!
    Grab a G5, G10 or I15 driver while your at it !!
    I went with S58 irons till a year ago i think, for 18 months, moved to BR J33 Cb\'s and loved the J33,
    a highly rated classic on WRX.
    You seem very capable as a Club Ho and on the Course, so Keep it Simple ! Best wishes, Roger
    

    
    The Club Ho part, unfortunately, negatively impacts my score as much as not playing! Sometimes I wonder if I would be shooting the same scores today with my old Pings ..
    drn92
  • #13

    
    The old Pings are bullet proof, so finding a good set for cheap is pretty easy.
    I have a few sets of the newer Ping\'s and some older ones.
    I have played a few rounds with both the i10\'s and the i3\'s. For me the i3\'s are a better choice.
    I have never hit the i5\'s but have read some glowing reviews on them.
    The eye 2\'s are probably the best choice in the older sets, but my BC Zings are probably the easiest to hit and so **** accurate. My digger swing can take some nasty divots tho.
    The S58\'s are worth looking into as well. iE1\'s are fantastic, and prices are dropping.
    If u really have your heart set on the i10\'s private message me as i have 2 sets and will likely sell one of them. Also i have some i3 pluses.
    Best of luck in your search.
    

    
    Good to know on the iE1\'s and S58\'s. That will broaden my search a bit.
    I hear you on the Zings. I had a set (emphasis on had) and of all the irons I\'ve played they were the set that I remember stuffing iron shots. Two of the three flags I\'ve hit cam with Zings in the bag.
    I have tried i3\'s and i3+, seem to like the + version a bit more. My brother has some i5\'s that are very nice. They do not seem to come up as much on my searches.
    Thanks, drn92
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    ie1, i20 and i5. All nice. Just depends on what your budget really is. If you are looking to stay on the inexpensive side of things, at this point, you can get i20\'s in close to the same price range is i5\'s. But, with the right shaft, the i5\'s still perform as well as anything.

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  • edited Apr 10, 2017#15

    
    

    
    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
    

    
    Thanks .. appreciate the feedback. I have not looked at lofts recently, but play \'old school\' lofts right now in my back-up set. My PW is 48 degrees, which is at least a club weak compared to the latest and greatest. In looking at the i10 specs, my 4 iron matches, and my wedge is 2 degrees weaker, so it appears the gapping had been compressed slightly as the irons get shorter.
    Good to know.
    drn92
    

    
    Yeah if you are playing the old school clubs now, then there should not be much difference. For me I preferred their size and some forgiveness but still made me learn how to hit the ball! /smile.png\' alt=\':)\' />
    Also see that the i5\'s being mentioned and have to say those are nice irons too but to me just a step down from the i10\'s but good so I wouldn\'t hesitate for get either one if you find a good price on them!
    Does Ping still support or should I say allow you to get replacement clubs and/or fix them if they get damaged? They are pretty old irons now so just wondered on what support is still offered!
  • #16

    
    

    
    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
    

    
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I am too cheap to move into one of the newest Ping irons (I\'d like to say frugal .. but cheap is the right word to use). I may have to keep stalking eBay and the BST for a while to see what shows up.
    I moved to R flex shafts a long time ago (late 30\'s) and have really grown to like them. Distances didn\'t change much, but I found I didn\'t have to work as hard to get the clubs to perform.
    drn92
    

    I understand the frugal comment completely. I recently saw a set of Ping ie1 irons for $350.00 and a set of I-25 for $290.00 + Shipping Looking outside of Ping my brother in-law just bought a set of New! Talormade irons Forged RSI irons 4-PW with KBS shafts for just over $400.00 and he is throwing darts with them. The newer models can be purchased with a budget in mind if you are willing to take your time and explore all avenues, he got these in a pro-shop after a round he said they stacked in a corner with a Sale sign taped to them he went to the range with the 6 iron hit a few balls walked in and asked how much he said the price was so good he didn\'t argue and walked out with them. Look for trade in deals where they double your trade-in value towards a new set, my son did this with his I-25 irons when they were the new model. The BST here is another great place to keep looking, and I buy here with confidence that I am purchasing authentic product. Best of luck keep us posted.
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    Other than the grooves in my opinion the difference boils down to distance and possibly forgiveness. Distance is easily explained away in the modern lofts the old 4 iron now has a 5 or 6 on it. This is where I believe the forgiveness comes in play. It is not as simple as relabeling the 4 iron. The iron has to be as playable as the former 5 or 6 iron and to accomplish this companies have learned to manipulate the weighting, add weight to the toe, and increase forgiveness across the face. With all this distances and forgiveness have increased. Standing on a flat lie making center contact on the face of my Ping S58 irons I didn\'t see any major differences between that iron and the new at the time Ping i e1, distances were comparable the new ping won out bit a few yards, but for me irons have been about consistent distances not long distance so I knew I could play the distances produced by the S58 irons, but knowing I am just south of 50 I have given up some distance and was really wanting the new Pings to jump out to a clear lead, but they didn\'t. I completed the fitting thinking that the i e1 was a solid iron but not a clear winner over my current S58. Weeks later a set of Ping i e1 irons sowed up on the WRX BST that were my exact spec I was fitted for just weeks earlier, the price was so attractive that I decided to buy them and if they didn\'t work out I would resale them. They did work out, I saw immediate results on the course. the i e1 was all around a better iron. On the course from un even lies, from the rough off the tee I saw immediate dividends, less than well struck shots still held the intended line and distances were marginally influenced. The biggest lesson I learned in technology was I can hit any iron from a flat perfect lie into a simulator, but under typical playing conditions the technology makes itself relevant. The Ping i\'s are the best iron I have played to date. Ping eye 2+, I3+, S58, and now the Ping i e1 with a few other manufactures mixed in between and the Ping ie1 is a clear winner. Distances are longer but consistent, forgiveness is evident but does not overshadow the playability. I will say that I feel I benefitted from a very good fitter. I questioned his suggestion at first, but trusted him and I am glad I did. I went to a Project X 5.5 and it matches up with the i\'s very well. I had played a Rifle TF 6.0 in my I3+ so it was not a huge departure, but I had to set my ego aside and trust in the softer shaft recommendation. Sorry to carry on so long, but what I feel is as a single digit handicap and as you described a decent ball striker you will strike the center of the club face more often than not and in those times the I10s will serve you well, but on those days when you may be a little off and you have less than perfect strikes the I10s will give up something to the newer models and the more modern technology.
    

    
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I am too cheap to move into one of the newest Ping irons (I\'d like to say frugal .. but cheap is the right word to use). I may have to keep stalking eBay and the BST for a while to see what shows up.
    I moved to R flex shafts a long time ago (late 30\'s) and have really grown to like them. Distances didn\'t change much, but I found I didn\'t have to work as hard to get the clubs to perform.
    drn92
    

    I understand the frugal comment completely. I recently saw a set of Ping ie1 irons for $350.00 and a set of I-25 for $290.00 + Shipping Looking outside of Ping my brother in-law just bought a set of New! Talormade irons Forged RSI irons 4-PW with KBS shafts for just over $400.00 and he is throwing darts with them. The newer models can be purchased with a budget in mind if you are willing to take your time and explore all avenues, he got these in a pro-shop after a round he said they stacked in a corner with a Sale sign taped to them he went to the range with the 6 iron hit a few balls walked in and asked how much he said the price was so good he didn\'t argue and walked out with them. Look for trade in deals where they double your trade-in value towards a new set, my son did this with his I-25 irons when they were the new model. The BST here is another great place to keep looking, and I buy here with confidence that I am purchasing authentic product. Best of luck keep us posted.
    

    
    Yep, I am cheap! I just need to keep stalking the various sites and keep my eyes open.
    I came across a set of Eye2\'s many years ago at a local Golfsmith. Great shape, new grips, and $99 for 3-W. Couldn\'t pass them up, and now they are with my younger brother since the ZZ-Lite shafts are now too stiff.
    drn92
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    I loved the i10\'s and owned/played them for many years and to me the only thing maybe not having stronger lofts on the irons like they do now but if I still had my set, I would be playing them! I think they are one of the best irons out there next to the old ISI\'s or ISI-k\'s. Now all the ones have more blade feeling to them so to me they are harsher and less forgiving or they are big fat soled and too forgiving and too high of launch for my liking!
    

    
    Thanks .. appreciate the feedback. I have not looked at lofts recently, but play \'old school\' lofts right now in my back-up set. My PW is 48 degrees, which is at least a club weak compared to the latest and greatest. In looking at the i10 specs, my 4 iron matches, and my wedge is 2 degrees weaker, so it appears the gapping had been compressed slightly as the irons get shorter.
    Good to know.
    drn92
    

    
    Yeah if you are playing the old school clubs now, then there should not be much difference. For me I preferred their size and some forgiveness but still made me learn how to hit the ball! /smile.png\' alt=\':)\' />
    Also see that the i5\'s being mentioned and have to say those are nice irons too but to me just a step down from the i10\'s but good so I wouldn\'t hesitate for get either one if you find a good price on them!
    Does Ping still support or should I say allow you to get replacement clubs and/or fix them if they get damaged? They are pretty old irons now so just wondered on what support is still offered!
    

    
    I grew up on Powerbilt Scotch Blades and Wilson Staffs .. Almost anything looks forgiving next to those!
    I think Ping offers support when stock is available, but I am pretty sure they are not making any new i10 heads. I know that almost any club can be reshafted, retumbled, and have the swingweight adjusted if needed.
    drn92
  • #19

    Update .. with new irons on the way.
    Found a deal today on some s56\'s that are in my specs (or close enough that I can adjust the lie if needed). They are on the way and hopefully will be in my bag by Thursday.
    The advancements in design and MOI plus the conforming grooves swung the decision in the s56\'s favor.
    Thanks all for the input on my question.
    drn92
  • #20

    If it\'s a money thing take a look at the i15\'s. Having played the 10\'s and 15\'s the later are a bit more forgiving and longer while maintaining a thinner sole and top line then its G counterpart.
  • #21

    Congrats on the new clubs
    I played the I10\'s for 2 seasons and never really loved them. Found them to be fairly harsh for a Ping iron and not overly forgiving. They are the redheaded stepchild of the Ping lineup because they were essentially obsoleted when the S57 came out shortly into their lifecycle. I am pretty sure if i recall the S57 had higher MOI and playability despite a slightly smaller head. The I10 was too close to their own players club, and guys wanting forgiviness had the G\'s to look at. They were a weird release, and unique in how small they were compared to most I\'s

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  • #22

    
    Congrats on the new clubs
    I played the I10\'s for 2 seasons and never really loved them. Found them to be fairly harsh for a Ping iron and not overly forgiving. They are the redheaded stepchild of the Ping lineup because they were essentially obsoleted when the S57 came out shortly into their lifecycle. I am pretty sure if i recall the S57 had higher MOI and playability despite a slightly smaller head. The I10 was too close to their own players club, and guys wanting forgiviness had the G\'s to look at. They were a weird release, and unique in how small they were compared to most I\'s
    

    
    They looked SO good though. Like a lot of people, I thought they were going to pack the i-5 forgiveness in a smaller/sexier head. Instead, they were a big drop in forgiveness and didn\'t feel great either. Redheaded stepchild is a perfect description.

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  • #23

    
    Congrats on the new clubs
    I played the I10\'s for 2 seasons and never really loved them. Found them to be fairly harsh for a Ping iron and not overly forgiving.
    

    
    As someone who gamed a combo set of g10/i10\'s, g15/i10\'s for most of this decade (a big thank you to you and some others for that) it is probably ironic that the G\'s are gone but the I10\'s will always remain. A perfect range sharpener and indestructible practice club that still finds its way into the low end of the bag on occasion. A good looker and forgiving for the thin miss if not an all rounder.
    Echoing the congrats on the S56, another fine choice.
  • #24

    Love my I10 irons! If you like a compact head with less offset then I cannot think of a better ping offering. The I3 blade would be a close second but no other ping iron, old or new IMHO can compare to them. There has been lots of talk about losing distance compared to other ping models but if you have the same shaft and same loft and can hit the ball in the middle of the club face most of the time, then you should not see any difference in distance. For example, I took an I10 7 iron and an i5 7 iron both shafted with AWT stiff, both black dot and both with the same loft and hit them to a towel that I placed out at 160 yards. Every ball that I hit landed within feet of each other. The only difference that I noticed was that looking down at the I5 was to me, like looking down at a shovel. I have tried to kick the I10s out of the bag but they always find their way back in. I realize that I am in the WRX minority but it\'s all good when I\'m finding fairways and greens!
  • #25

    Play them if you like them, I found them to be unforgiving. You would love the s55.
  • #26

    Get i5 irons- they are legendary. I played them for 7 years before switching to Mizuno MP-53s (another classic iron). The i10 and i15s were a disappointment compared to the i5s and why many did not make the switch and until the i20s and beyond (or switched to a different OEM like I did).
    Unless you are trying to buy used/cheaper.. why not the i200. I think they are the chip off the old i5 block and almost made me switch back from Mizzy irons. i200 look simple, solid, the right offset, are forgiving, and a new classic. Good luck.

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