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Everything you need to know to choose the right catfish reels and set them up. I am 63 and I have tried for many a decade to cast a bait caster and I just don't. PENN FATHOM II 20LW LEFT HAND REEL. $199.95 Add to cart for discounted price. PENN FATHOM II 15LW Product Details Add to Cart.
Click to expand.I know everyone has a brand they favor. Just like trucks and boats. But everyone that uses our reels think they are Abu 7000 series and we explain that they are $67 reels. For the most part all reels are made in China now so they are really all about the same.
Just what you tell yourself inside for the ones that like this reel over that reel. Ancient Mariner is a good reel from what I hear but they have some marketing issue with the owner from what I hear. I’ve never used them but they are also priced pretty cheap. Don’t store them in the sun light and keep them greased and most all these reels will give you years of service.
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Click to expand. Hopefully it is better than the II. Skyrim height scale. I have had mine for a year and the nut that holds the rotor on kept loosening. Had to put loctite on it. And the spool does not ride high enough. The line tapers from half a spool at the base to a full spool at the top of it.It also just seems to be built lighter than a lot of other reels.
Nothing has broke and it has held up to a bunch of carp up to 30lbs and one over 40. But it was the max for it.
Did not think it was going to get the 40 in. This was a 5000 series spinning reel. Click to expand.I use their Rover 6000 baitcaster as well as many of their Spinning reels. I have the catfish edition of Abu Garcia and love it and I use the following Spinning reels. Abu Garcia Cardinals, Shimano Sedona and Libra Tica for everything from bass fishing to panfishing.
I also use the Kastking Sharky, Kastking Centron, and Pontus. I have NEVER had an issue finding parts for my kastking reels. All you have to do is contact eposeidon.com, they're the US dealers for KastKing.
To be honest, I've only had to replace one piece and it was my own fault and the piece I replaced was a rod. I broke it and they stand behind their equipment so well that they replaced the rod for me and didn't even charge shipping. I would put the baitcaster up against ANY reel, even the 200-300 buck reels and I have NEVER had a spinning reel with a retrieve as smooth as the 2017 Centron reels have. I put the Rover on a medium heavy rippin lips rod, I have one of the Sharky 5000 on a Rippin Lips Spinning rod, I have the 3000 Centron and 3000 Pontus on Ugly Stick GX2. I use their mono line, their braided line, and the fluorocarbon line and I love it. I'm a hardcore hunter and fisherman from Eastern, KY and my equipment works like a bank mule but I also clean and maintain my equipment in a more than regular basis.
Anything will last you a long long time if you treat it with the respect it deserves. Anything I spend my hard earned money on I take good care of. Those coal mines aren't easy work.
Good fishing and I hope this helps you some. Someone posted on here. You get what you pay for, that's not always true because sometimes you're paying for 90% brand name and 10% product. I've seen subpar items on everything from my fishing and hunting equipment to my golf or ATV equipment. It's been a long time coming, but I finally had a few minutes this afternoon to make it to a nearby lake to do the Kastking vs. Abu comparison. As I posted back in December, I have 4 Whisker Seeker MH rods, 2 with KK50Rs and 2 with 6500C3s.
To keep things as even as I could, 1 of each is spooled with 20lb Berkley Big Game and 30lb Whisker Seeker mono. These monos are the same diameter, so that hopefully provided a bit of 'baseline' for the test. All casts were made using a 2 ounce no roll sinker with no terminal tackle.I wasn't fishing, just casting.
I wanted to see how the line / reel combo on identical rods affected casting distance, casting ease, and things like that. This was NOT a scientific evaluation, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. Better yet, take it with a pinch of salt.The rods:The venue:Not sure if you can see it, but there is a 'fish attractor' buoy probably 40 yards from the dock. That was my referent point for casts.I started with the Abu BBG combo. Let 'er rip 3 times and easily sailed well past the buoy. I'm going to guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 yards?
I wish I had a football field or something to conduct the test on, but I don't. I'm just thankful that I at least had the buoy there as some sort of visual reference point!Before the cast:After the cast:At this point that I decided to try one cast on each rod and intentionally let it overrun just to see what would happen.Next up was the Abu with WS mono.
I forgot to take pictures. It definitely cast a bit further than the BBG, but not much. Certainly not enough to justify the increased price, if casting distance alone is the only thing you're taking into account (though I'm sure it isn't).Abu WS overrun:Next up was the KK BBG combo.
Let 'er rip 3 times, hard.Before the cast:After the cast:Then, it was time to let the KK BBG overrun. Had to split the post because the forum wouldn’t let me add but so many pictures to the first So, on to part two.Next up, and last up, was the KK WS combo.
Again, 3 very hard casts.Before:After:Intentional overrun:My probably biased, totally unscientific impressions:First, the Abu. I’ve fished with these reels numerous times. They are the kind of reels that not only look good, but they make you look good.As the pictures show, it’s all but impossible to get the Abu to overrun / backlash / birds nest / whatever you want to call it.
I flung that lead HARD and didn’t touch the spool a bit. And you see the results yourself. I should add, I’ve never messed with the centrifugal brakes on either reel, so they’re at whatever setting they came at from the factory.What you can’t see in the pictures, you can hear and feel in the casts and retrieves. The Abu’s are nearly silent both going out and coming back in. Everything feels “tight” and there is no slop in the gears, anti reverse, or spool.
It just feels like a quality piece of kit. I also really like the handle on the Abu’s. They are somewhat smaller than the Kastking both as far as the knobs goes, and the distance between the two. They are also bent in toward the reel, making for a very natural feeling as you reel in all that line you just sent flying. I know a lot of guys like to replace the standard handle with a power handle. I have zero experience with power handles.
I figure if Steve Douglas can reel in those monster blues on his Bass Pro Catmaxx reels and their tiny handles, I can use the stock Abu handles just fine.In my opinion, the thumb rest is a much appreciated as you’re reeling in. The 6500C3 is small enough that an average man can grip the rod blank, and the reel at the same time, making it feel quite natural in the hand.The spool release button does require two hand operation, as your casting thumb has to remain on the spool when you depress it, otherwise your rig ends up in the drink or the dirt before you can even get your cast off. But this is a minor issue and one that quickly becomes second nature.Next, the Kastking Rover. The first thing I noticed when I went to cast is the KK takes a lot more adjustment to get reel ready to cast. Unlike the 6500C3, the Rover 50R has the spool tension knob on both sides of the reel. I have other reels like this and love it, so I thought I would actually prefer it to the Abu that doesn’t have that option. But these are almost non-responsive.
Turn and turn and turn and 2oz of lead still falls like it just got pushed off a table top. Finally it will start to add some resistance but then you back off the tiniest bit, and it’s free falling again.
I did my best to get the drop to match the Abu’s so that the comparison would be as even as possible.Then there’s the actual cast. The immediate thing you notice is that the KK is much noisier than the Abu. As I’ve already said, the Abus are very quiet, both casting and reeling.
The KK's gears make a pretty good whine both on casting and retrieving. Also, there felt like there was a good bit more 'slop' in the KK reels. The handle knobs are much larger, not as comfortable in my hand, and the striaght cross bar combined with the over all larger handle made for a less comfortable retrieve.
Now don’t get me wrong, it’s not as if I all of the sudden couldn’t reel in my line. But given the option, the KK is definitely not as pleasant to reel up repeatedly.Now, you’ve probably already noticed the biggest difference between the KK and the Abu: overruns.
They actually don’t look as bad in the pictures, but they were both quite a mess and took a few minutes to undo. Granted, I ripped that lead out there and just let the spool go with no help whatsoever from my thumb. But compared to the Abu, there was a substantial difference. I couldn’t make my Abu’s overrun if I tried. These KK’s, you’d better be paying attention, or you might be wasting precious time on the water undoing your mistake.One thing I did like about them, perhaps more than the Abu, is the thumb bar spool release button.
While not a huge deal, it is nice to be able to simultaneously release the spool and catch it with your thumb. It certainly removes the need for reaching around with your off-hand during the casting process. It’s small, but I did enjoy it.But then there’s the downside. I suppose by moving the spool release to the thumb bar style, the KK can’t also have the off-hand thumb rest like the Abu. Not a huge deal, as you can just rest your thumb on the frame itself on the KK (there’s no clicker there to get in your way; the KK clicker is over on the side of the frame, opposite the handle). Given the option, I’d rather have the thumb rest than the thumb bar release.
But that’s just me.Now, about the lines. Was there any noticeable difference between Berkley Big Game which retails for around $7 for 650 yards of 20lb and the Whisker Seeker which retails for $17 for 500 yards of 30lb? I would say yes, there was a noticeable, though admittedly slight, difference. The WS seemed to consistently cast just a few yards further than the BBG.
And by few, I do mean few. Perhaps 10 at most? I’m not sure, as I said before, I wasn’t on a field or something where things could be measured, just using my eye to judge where each cast landed beyond the buoy. Keeping in mind that the BBG 20lb and the WS 30lb are the same diameter, this was interesting to me. Perhaps something else about the line was contributing to this (stretch?
Something else?) I don’t know. Is it worth the extra $10 to go with WS over BBG? I guess that depends on how much you like orange! And what other features show up in real-world fishing situations, not mere casting competitions. I can tell you this much, I won’t be unspooling the BBG from the reels these reels to replace them with WS just yet.
I want to see what happens going forward. And only if I can see some real benefits will I be willing to spend the extra money again in the future.The verdict on the KK vs Abu? That’s for you to decide.If you are new to baitcasting reels, I would probably steer you toward the Abu.
I honestly believe you will have far fewer headaches thanks to its aversion to overruns.
When you are looking for more control and challenge while fishing, you usually go after a baitcasting reel. Because baitcasting offers you with more strength and control than a spinning reel does. You will want a baitcasting reel to work with as you climb up the ladder of skill. However, baitcasting reels themselves require skill to be managed well. In fact, you have to practice for a while with it to get the best results.
If you do not master it well enough, you will never be satisfied by fishing with it.However, it is not just your skills that will help but also the quality of your reel and the materials you use with it. Apparently, the fishing line plays an important role when you are fishing with a baitcaster. Since baitcasting reels are delicate instruments and harder to handle, you have to make sure each component of it is perfect. Now, the type of line you need to use does not just depend on the baitcasting reel itself but also how you fish and what you fish. So, in order to score high in the fishing arena, you must have the best fishing line for baitcaster.
How safe do you think you will feel when you wear a bullet proof vest? Apparently, this KastKing SuperPower braided line is made of braided polyethylene fiber which also makes bulletproof vests. So, you can expect similar damage resistance from this line. What will amaze you about this line is its strength, durability and the knots.
You will be able to make any kind of knots easily with it. Although some of the strength does decrease with knots, it won’t affect the performance.The line has zero stretch which makes it very sensitive. So, you will be able to feel even the slightest pecks. Furthermore, it has less memory which allows you to cast smooth. You will be able to use longer lines and cast further because the diameter of this line is quite small. It has tests ranging from 10-150 lbs. Furthermore, it is available in a number of colors so you can choose the perfect size and color for the place you are fishing at.
Apart from that, what you might face trouble with is the line breaking as a few customers did. Also, you might find the line thicker than you expected it to be.For the price, this line provides you with better quality and performance that you will expect and barely gives you reasons to complain about.
Unless it does not fit your requirements. If you are looking for a line to go after the big and aggressive fishes, the Big Game monofilament custom spool line can serve you well. Apparently, the line has a good strength rating which is also quite accurate. No one ever had any complaints regarding the strength, control, and confidence this line provides. Furthermore, if it bumps into something sharp or tough underwater, it won’t disappoint you by breaking right there. In fact, it is very shock-absorbent and also abrasion-resistant.
As a result, it provides you with the durability you require on those tough and wild fishing sessions. It has a 60 lb test and it works best when used for this range.Making a knot with it for holding the lure is also quite easy. However, although the brand claims that the line has low memory, most customers who had anything bad to point out complained that they have never seen as much memory as this line has.
So, this could cause trouble in your casting performance. But, most has a good fishing time anyway. Apart from that, some complained that the line has no stretch as a monofilament line should have and is prone to wind knots and getting tangled up. The positive side of it having no stretch is that it will have better sensitivity.Although this line does have a few cons, for the price and strength, it is something that makes most anglers happy. If you want to catch fish like a sniper, this is the line that can act as your sniping weapon. In fact, this FluoroKote line has the fluorocarbon which keeps its visibility low in the water.
So, the fishes won’t have a clue what awaits them, what’s dragging them and what they need to fight. Furthermore, the line has high strength as well. So, you can target the big fishes without any worries. You do not have to worry about it being damaged much because it is quite abrasion resistant too. The usual obstacles will not be able to take time off its durability.You will be impressed with the casting performance too. The line has low absorption which makes it sink faster. Tying knots in it is also easy but not all kinds of the knot are suitable for it.
But, tying a knot won’t reduce the knot strength much. Furthermore, you will be able to feel the fishes biting mildly as this line has good sensibility. Although the line has low memory, some customers expressed that it would be better if the line had even lesser memory. Apart from that, you can cast quite far with it as the line has a small diameter which allows you to use more of it on a spool. Are you fond of experimenting and like to try out different methods of fishing. Then, this Berkley Trilene XL line is a versatile line that you will be able to use in any way you want with baitcasters.
Furthermore, it is strong enough to deal with the larger species. You need your line to be strong enough to deal with the uncertainty and this line provides you with the strength you require. Furthermore, obstacles in your way will not stop it either as it has great abrasion resistance.
So, it is a really strong and durable line to keep for your baitcaster.You will enjoy casting with it as well. Firstly setting it up with knots is no big deal. Then, you do not worry about the line tangling either. It has low memory to help easy and long distance casts. Furthermore, the casts are quite smooth as well. However, as with, you might not get the sensitivity you require that you usually get from other types of lines.
Another trouble with it is quite visible under water and the color, according to a few customers, comes off when the line touches the water.Apart from all that, this line is a strong, affordable and functional line to take with you for different types of fishing with a baitcaster. Want to trap your target like a spider web traps its preys? Then, this line is for you. In fact, it is quite invisible underwater, so the fishes will not have a clue what hit them.
Furthermore, it has a low diameter which lets you use longer lengths of it and also keep its visibility low. However, you will be able to see it clearly over water. What will amaze is probably its strength. This line has a high strength which is mostly due to its strong braided and high-quality build. Apparently, it has an ultra smooth 8 carrier braid made from a combination of nylons, fluoropolymers, and High Molecular Weight PE fibers. As a result, its durability and strength to fight are not matters that should concern you.It has an innovative cold fusion process and casting with it is fun too.
You will like how smoothly and nicely it hits the water when you cast it. Furthermore, it is quiet too. All the more reason that the fishes will be clueless. However, there are a few problems you might face too. Some complained that the line broke way too easily. There are complaints about it being too visible as well but from a very few.
Although managing the line is quite easy and the line itself is durable, it will stain easily in dirty water.It is not the best line out there for some of its cons but it is still worth a try for the feeling it provides due to its unique build. Small is not necessarily weak and this line proves it. Are you on the lookout for a line that has a small diameter but high strength? Then, this is the line you need. You can load longer lengths of it and cast far while not sacrificing any amount of strength.
The secret behind its strength is the braided line with eight fibers in the making. Apart from that, this line has high abrasion resistance which makes it durable for long-term use. So, you not only get stronger, long casts but also durability from the same line.While casting with it is quite easy you might face a few problems. Firstly, bird nests and wind knots might occur after you cast for a while. Secondly, a few customers complained that the line broke way too easily. Other than this, the brand claims that the line has TGP technology that improves the color retaining capability of the line.
This is a good news but a customer complained that the color faded after a few casts.Therefore, as long as the line does what the brand tells it does and you get the right product, it is a great line. But, if it somehow does not, you can tell it’s bad luck on your side and inconsistency on the company’s one. If you are looking for a fluorocarbon line that does great in freshwater, then this might just be it. Apparently, it gives you the right balance between solid and soft. It is quite solid when it comes to providing you with the strength you require. Then again, it is very sensitive to the light touches of the fishes too.
You will get just what you expect from total fluorocarbon lines with this line. It has extremely low visibility underwater and there is not a single complaint about its low visibility.
Apparently, it is for a 200-yard spool and weighs 0.12 pounds.You will enjoy casting with it as it is easy to cast with and hits the water very smoothly. Furthermore, you know how fluorocarbon lines are sensitive to UV rays and other chemicals. But, this line prevents damage from these factors. However, a few customers still complained that it loses its durability too fast.
Apart from that, it performs best as a leader rather than the main line. Finally, it is super affordable! When you are fishing you do not want to alert the fishes by making noise that they are under attack. For this purpose, you need a line that casts really quietly and this is the line that does this job extremely quietly.
The fishes won’t even hear the water splashing because this line is smooth as silk and won’t make such a ruckus. Apart from that, you might think that the line must not be very strong if it is that quiet. But, you are wrong. It has a very high capability and strength and it casts like a bullet.Moreover, you can select from a number of sizes and capacities so you will find the perfect one for your baitcaster.
The line is very abrasion resistant as well. So, you do not have to worry about its durability much. However, you might have to worry about wrong handling breaking it too easily because a few customers complained about it breaking.
Another popular complaint is that the line seems to fray too easily. Although the line usually does not form wind knots or bird nests, a few customers complained that it does.Apart from the cons, the line performs really great for the cheap price it is available at. In case you are a beginner and you want a super cheap line then you can try your luck with this KastKing Masters monofilament line. Apparently, you don't expect a line to be functional at the price this line comes at. However, it is much better than even some expensive lines.
In fact, it provides you just the right combination of strength and durability. You cannot expect the strength of a braided line from a monofilament line but this line provides you with the best of the strengths monofilaments are capable of providing. Furthermore, it is very resistant to abrasion which makes it durable.You can also cast smoothly and far as this line has a thinner diameter so you can use longer lengths of it. It also has less memory so the number of trouble with wind knots will be low.
However, any line of a good length is susceptible to form knots and therefore, you cannot trust the low memory alone. The line has a bit too much stretch which causes trouble in case of sensibility. However, that is something all monofilaments do.In conclusion, this cheap line is great for beginner adventures as it provides a good enough assurance of good performance while not being the best. This is another cheap monofilament line that will help your beginner adventures.
Apparently, this is also a line that has great strength and also durability. It will provide you with the strength you need to fight the smaller and medium-sized fishes. Moreover, it is quite easy to handle and will provide you with a good control over the casts. Furthermore, it has a low memory which helps to reduce the number of wind knots and bird nests. The line will not break easily when serving you and that is an assurance. Forming knots in it is also very easy as it is with any other monofilament.The line, however, will decay over time due to exposure to the sun and other inevitable conditions. But, while it services you, it will barely cause any trouble.
It’s green color works really well in certain fishing areas where this color decreases visibility. Almost everyone knows that they need a good fishing line to work with a baitcaster efficiently.
But, only a few know what to look for in lines to find the best one out there. Therefore, in order for you to know of the most important factors that influence a fishing line, here is a list of them: Where Are You Going To Fish?Determining where you will fish is not important only when you are buying a baitcasting line but in any other fishing situation. You do not even travel to a place without knowing about its weather and taking the right line of clothes, do you? When it is about fishing, you have to even more careful about this. So, are you going to be fishing in clear water or sea water or ice water or whatever other kinds of water there is?
You have to determine the exact one and find a line that is best for that kind of water. What Species Are You After?After determining the place, you have to know what you are dealing with.
In fact, keep your enemies close remember? You have to know them first to determine what you need to capture them. When it comes to fishing, it is mostly the habits, size, and weight of the fish that is important for you to note down. Because the line must have features to help you deal with that particular species. The Type Of Line You Need And Prefer:There are basically four kinds of lines you get to choose from. Each of them is made with a different kind of material and has its own pros and cons.
Which kind will serve you best depends on your type of fishing and skills. So, here is a brief note on all of them:. Monofilament: This is something like the beginner’s haven. Monofilament lines are really easy to deal with because you cast using your thumb and monofilament makes it easy. Furthermore, you will rarely face any backlashes when working with it.
It does tend to form knots but you can easily get rid of these knots as this material has high stretch-ability. The problem, however, is that it is not very resistant to abrasion. So, you will need a more durable line for dealing with rougher conditions. Braided: While monofilament offers so much stretch that the sensitivity of the line gets reduced, braided lines offer no stretch and provides you with a very sensitive line.
Furthermore, it is resistant to abrasion and a very strong line. The only drawback is exposure to UV damages it and also it is very visible in the water. Fishes will be able to see it easily. Fluorocarbon: If you want your line to be invisible under water then a fluorocarbon line is what you need.
It is quite strong and durable. However, it is not the best line for baitcasting as it is more susceptible to backlashes when used with a baitcaster. Fusion: If you have ever tracked the best solution to any problem, you may have noticed that it is generally a combination of all the good features. So, in this case, a fusion line combines all the good features of the above-mentioned types of line. It is strong, durable, sensitive and also very easy to handle.
However, you cannot just one kind of feature to perform the best. This is basically great for big game fishing.Line Test:You do not want to be pulling in a huge shark with a thin like the hairline. The line will probably just break when it touches the water let alone the shark.
So, considering the species you are after, you have to choose how much pressure should the line be able to take? Because if you are after a 10-pound fish which fights with an aggressiveness of a 12-pound fish, you need a line that can withstand 12 pounds or more. So, determine what you need the line test/ breaking load to be. Line’s Length:You have the perfect test and all but you cannot even cast to where the species you are after are swimming. Therefore, the line’s length matters as well. Apart from considering how far you want to cast, you have to consider how much length your reel can take too.
Usually, there is a relationship between the line weight and length capacity written on the reel itself. Therefore, consider the length you want to cast at and the reel’s capacity. Line’s Diameter:Yes, you guessed it right; the next on this list is the diameter. We cannot leave the diameter out now, can we?
So, the diameter is also crucial for casting performance. The more the diameter the greater the friction will be. As a result, the distance covered will also be less. And, lesser the diameter the distance covered will be greater.Apart from that, the reel can hold longer lines if the line's diameter is less. Because it will able to accommodate more of the thinner lines. Durability:When you are casting with a baitcaster, you need the extra strength. In fact, your line has to be strong enough to not just deal with the fishes but also the strict boss- the baitcasting reel.
Therefore, it has to be very strong and durable. Furthermore, you do not want your line to break all of a sudden either. This is not just the result of the too strong fishes being aggressive but also the line quality. Therefore, to get the maximum out of what you pay for, be sure that you are buying a good quality reel with maximum durability.
Price:You will find different kinds of lines at the same price and the same quality lines at different prices. It is best to keep a moderate budget because when it comes to lines, not all expensive ones are great and not all cheap ones are bad. All you have to is neither be too frugal nor be too extravagant and just have a good judging eye. You already know what a fishing line does.
In fact, it would not be possible for you to fish with a reel without a line. So, the benefits you will enjoy in this case are from buying a fishing line that is particularly suitable for a baitcaster. The reason is that baitcasters have different requirements than a spinning reel. So, the benefits are: More Strength:As you already know that baitcasters are stronger than spinning reels. Therefore, the line it uses should also be able to handle the enhanced power and strength requirements. A baitcaster with a weak line will just be useless. Therefore, lines that are great for baitcaster are naturally very strong.
More Abrasion Resistance:Baitcaster come handy in rough water conditions while fighting tougher fishes. In fact, it is not just the fishes that the baitcaster has to fight but it has to fight with the other environmental conditions as well. Therefore, lines suitable for baitcasters have more abrasion-resistant properties than other lines. So, the best fishing line for baitcasters will delight you with its abrasion resistance. When you are at war, you have to make sure each of the weapons you use is as best as it can be. So, when you are fishing with a baitcasting reel, the reel will not perform its best if you pair it up with a line that is not perfect for it.The line should not just be the right fit but should be of high quality and efficiency as well. It is only knowledge and experience that can help you find the best fishing line for baitcaster.You now have the knowledge to go out there and gather the experience you need by experimenting.
Everything you need to know to choose the right catfish reels and set them up. I am 63 and I have tried for many a decade to cast a bait caster and I just don\'t. PENN FATHOM II 20LW LEFT HAND REEL. $199.95 Add to cart for discounted price. PENN FATHOM II 15LW Product Details Add to Cart.
Click to expand.I know everyone has a brand they favor. Just like trucks and boats. But everyone that uses our reels think they are Abu 7000 series and we explain that they are $67 reels. For the most part all reels are made in China now so they are really all about the same.
Just what you tell yourself inside for the ones that like this reel over that reel. Ancient Mariner is a good reel from what I hear but they have some marketing issue with the owner from what I hear. I’ve never used them but they are also priced pretty cheap. Don’t store them in the sun light and keep them greased and most all these reels will give you years of service.
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Click to expand. Hopefully it is better than the II. Skyrim height scale. I have had mine for a year and the nut that holds the rotor on kept loosening. Had to put loctite on it. And the spool does not ride high enough. The line tapers from half a spool at the base to a full spool at the top of it.It also just seems to be built lighter than a lot of other reels.
Nothing has broke and it has held up to a bunch of carp up to 30lbs and one over 40. But it was the max for it.
Did not think it was going to get the 40 in. This was a 5000 series spinning reel. Click to expand.I use their Rover 6000 baitcaster as well as many of their Spinning reels. I have the catfish edition of Abu Garcia and love it and I use the following Spinning reels. Abu Garcia Cardinals, Shimano Sedona and Libra Tica for everything from bass fishing to panfishing.
I also use the Kastking Sharky, Kastking Centron, and Pontus. I have NEVER had an issue finding parts for my kastking reels. All you have to do is contact eposeidon.com, they\'re the US dealers for KastKing.
To be honest, I\'ve only had to replace one piece and it was my own fault and the piece I replaced was a rod. I broke it and they stand behind their equipment so well that they replaced the rod for me and didn\'t even charge shipping. I would put the baitcaster up against ANY reel, even the 200-300 buck reels and I have NEVER had a spinning reel with a retrieve as smooth as the 2017 Centron reels have. I put the Rover on a medium heavy rippin lips rod, I have one of the Sharky 5000 on a Rippin Lips Spinning rod, I have the 3000 Centron and 3000 Pontus on Ugly Stick GX2. I use their mono line, their braided line, and the fluorocarbon line and I love it. I\'m a hardcore hunter and fisherman from Eastern, KY and my equipment works like a bank mule but I also clean and maintain my equipment in a more than regular basis.
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Good fishing and I hope this helps you some. Someone posted on here. You get what you pay for, that\'s not always true because sometimes you\'re paying for 90% brand name and 10% product. I\'ve seen subpar items on everything from my fishing and hunting equipment to my golf or ATV equipment. It\'s been a long time coming, but I finally had a few minutes this afternoon to make it to a nearby lake to do the Kastking vs. Abu comparison. As I posted back in December, I have 4 Whisker Seeker MH rods, 2 with KK50Rs and 2 with 6500C3s.
To keep things as even as I could, 1 of each is spooled with 20lb Berkley Big Game and 30lb Whisker Seeker mono. These monos are the same diameter, so that hopefully provided a bit of \'baseline\' for the test. All casts were made using a 2 ounce no roll sinker with no terminal tackle.I wasn\'t fishing, just casting.
I wanted to see how the line / reel combo on identical rods affected casting distance, casting ease, and things like that. This was NOT a scientific evaluation, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. Better yet, take it with a pinch of salt.The rods:The venue:Not sure if you can see it, but there is a \'fish attractor\' buoy probably 40 yards from the dock. That was my referent point for casts.I started with the Abu BBG combo. Let \'er rip 3 times and easily sailed well past the buoy. I\'m going to guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 yards?
I wish I had a football field or something to conduct the test on, but I don\'t. I\'m just thankful that I at least had the buoy there as some sort of visual reference point!Before the cast:After the cast:At this point that I decided to try one cast on each rod and intentionally let it overrun just to see what would happen.Next up was the Abu with WS mono.
I forgot to take pictures. It definitely cast a bit further than the BBG, but not much. Certainly not enough to justify the increased price, if casting distance alone is the only thing you\'re taking into account (though I\'m sure it isn\'t).Abu WS overrun:Next up was the KK BBG combo.
Let \'er rip 3 times, hard.Before the cast:After the cast:Then, it was time to let the KK BBG overrun. Had to split the post because the forum wouldn’t let me add but so many pictures to the first So, on to part two.Next up, and last up, was the KK WS combo.
Again, 3 very hard casts.Before:After:Intentional overrun:My probably biased, totally unscientific impressions:First, the Abu. I’ve fished with these reels numerous times. They are the kind of reels that not only look good, but they make you look good.As the pictures show, it’s all but impossible to get the Abu to overrun / backlash / birds nest / whatever you want to call it.
I flung that lead HARD and didn’t touch the spool a bit. And you see the results yourself. I should add, I’ve never messed with the centrifugal brakes on either reel, so they’re at whatever setting they came at from the factory.What you can’t see in the pictures, you can hear and feel in the casts and retrieves. The Abu’s are nearly silent both going out and coming back in. Everything feels “tight” and there is no slop in the gears, anti reverse, or spool.
It just feels like a quality piece of kit. I also really like the handle on the Abu’s. They are somewhat smaller than the Kastking both as far as the knobs goes, and the distance between the two. They are also bent in toward the reel, making for a very natural feeling as you reel in all that line you just sent flying. I know a lot of guys like to replace the standard handle with a power handle. I have zero experience with power handles.
I figure if Steve Douglas can reel in those monster blues on his Bass Pro Catmaxx reels and their tiny handles, I can use the stock Abu handles just fine.In my opinion, the thumb rest is a much appreciated as you’re reeling in. The 6500C3 is small enough that an average man can grip the rod blank, and the reel at the same time, making it feel quite natural in the hand.The spool release button does require two hand operation, as your casting thumb has to remain on the spool when you depress it, otherwise your rig ends up in the drink or the dirt before you can even get your cast off. But this is a minor issue and one that quickly becomes second nature.Next, the Kastking Rover. The first thing I noticed when I went to cast is the KK takes a lot more adjustment to get reel ready to cast. Unlike the 6500C3, the Rover 50R has the spool tension knob on both sides of the reel. I have other reels like this and love it, so I thought I would actually prefer it to the Abu that doesn’t have that option. But these are almost non-responsive.
Turn and turn and turn and 2oz of lead still falls like it just got pushed off a table top. Finally it will start to add some resistance but then you back off the tiniest bit, and it’s free falling again.
I did my best to get the drop to match the Abu’s so that the comparison would be as even as possible.Then there’s the actual cast. The immediate thing you notice is that the KK is much noisier than the Abu. As I’ve already said, the Abus are very quiet, both casting and reeling.
The KK\'s gears make a pretty good whine both on casting and retrieving. Also, there felt like there was a good bit more \'slop\' in the KK reels. The handle knobs are much larger, not as comfortable in my hand, and the striaght cross bar combined with the over all larger handle made for a less comfortable retrieve.
Now don’t get me wrong, it’s not as if I all of the sudden couldn’t reel in my line. But given the option, the KK is definitely not as pleasant to reel up repeatedly.Now, you’ve probably already noticed the biggest difference between the KK and the Abu: overruns.
They actually don’t look as bad in the pictures, but they were both quite a mess and took a few minutes to undo. Granted, I ripped that lead out there and just let the spool go with no help whatsoever from my thumb. But compared to the Abu, there was a substantial difference. I couldn’t make my Abu’s overrun if I tried. These KK’s, you’d better be paying attention, or you might be wasting precious time on the water undoing your mistake.One thing I did like about them, perhaps more than the Abu, is the thumb bar spool release button.
While not a huge deal, it is nice to be able to simultaneously release the spool and catch it with your thumb. It certainly removes the need for reaching around with your off-hand during the casting process. It’s small, but I did enjoy it.But then there’s the downside. I suppose by moving the spool release to the thumb bar style, the KK can’t also have the off-hand thumb rest like the Abu. Not a huge deal, as you can just rest your thumb on the frame itself on the KK (there’s no clicker there to get in your way; the KK clicker is over on the side of the frame, opposite the handle). Given the option, I’d rather have the thumb rest than the thumb bar release.
But that’s just me.Now, about the lines. Was there any noticeable difference between Berkley Big Game which retails for around $7 for 650 yards of 20lb and the Whisker Seeker which retails for $17 for 500 yards of 30lb? I would say yes, there was a noticeable, though admittedly slight, difference. The WS seemed to consistently cast just a few yards further than the BBG.
And by few, I do mean few. Perhaps 10 at most? I’m not sure, as I said before, I wasn’t on a field or something where things could be measured, just using my eye to judge where each cast landed beyond the buoy. Keeping in mind that the BBG 20lb and the WS 30lb are the same diameter, this was interesting to me. Perhaps something else about the line was contributing to this (stretch?
Something else?) I don’t know. Is it worth the extra $10 to go with WS over BBG? I guess that depends on how much you like orange! And what other features show up in real-world fishing situations, not mere casting competitions. I can tell you this much, I won’t be unspooling the BBG from the reels these reels to replace them with WS just yet.
I want to see what happens going forward. And only if I can see some real benefits will I be willing to spend the extra money again in the future.The verdict on the KK vs Abu? That’s for you to decide.If you are new to baitcasting reels, I would probably steer you toward the Abu.
I honestly believe you will have far fewer headaches thanks to its aversion to overruns.
When you are looking for more control and challenge while fishing, you usually go after a baitcasting reel. Because baitcasting offers you with more strength and control than a spinning reel does. You will want a baitcasting reel to work with as you climb up the ladder of skill. However, baitcasting reels themselves require skill to be managed well. In fact, you have to practice for a while with it to get the best results.
If you do not master it well enough, you will never be satisfied by fishing with it.However, it is not just your skills that will help but also the quality of your reel and the materials you use with it. Apparently, the fishing line plays an important role when you are fishing with a baitcaster. Since baitcasting reels are delicate instruments and harder to handle, you have to make sure each component of it is perfect. Now, the type of line you need to use does not just depend on the baitcasting reel itself but also how you fish and what you fish. So, in order to score high in the fishing arena, you must have the best fishing line for baitcaster.
How safe do you think you will feel when you wear a bullet proof vest? Apparently, this KastKing SuperPower braided line is made of braided polyethylene fiber which also makes bulletproof vests. So, you can expect similar damage resistance from this line. What will amaze you about this line is its strength, durability and the knots.
You will be able to make any kind of knots easily with it. Although some of the strength does decrease with knots, it won’t affect the performance.The line has zero stretch which makes it very sensitive. So, you will be able to feel even the slightest pecks. Furthermore, it has less memory which allows you to cast smooth. You will be able to use longer lines and cast further because the diameter of this line is quite small. It has tests ranging from 10-150 lbs. Furthermore, it is available in a number of colors so you can choose the perfect size and color for the place you are fishing at.
Apart from that, what you might face trouble with is the line breaking as a few customers did. Also, you might find the line thicker than you expected it to be.For the price, this line provides you with better quality and performance that you will expect and barely gives you reasons to complain about.
Unless it does not fit your requirements. If you are looking for a line to go after the big and aggressive fishes, the Big Game monofilament custom spool line can serve you well. Apparently, the line has a good strength rating which is also quite accurate. No one ever had any complaints regarding the strength, control, and confidence this line provides. Furthermore, if it bumps into something sharp or tough underwater, it won’t disappoint you by breaking right there. In fact, it is very shock-absorbent and also abrasion-resistant.
As a result, it provides you with the durability you require on those tough and wild fishing sessions. It has a 60 lb test and it works best when used for this range.Making a knot with it for holding the lure is also quite easy. However, although the brand claims that the line has low memory, most customers who had anything bad to point out complained that they have never seen as much memory as this line has.
So, this could cause trouble in your casting performance. But, most has a good fishing time anyway. Apart from that, some complained that the line has no stretch as a monofilament line should have and is prone to wind knots and getting tangled up. The positive side of it having no stretch is that it will have better sensitivity.Although this line does have a few cons, for the price and strength, it is something that makes most anglers happy. If you want to catch fish like a sniper, this is the line that can act as your sniping weapon. In fact, this FluoroKote line has the fluorocarbon which keeps its visibility low in the water.
So, the fishes won’t have a clue what awaits them, what’s dragging them and what they need to fight. Furthermore, the line has high strength as well. So, you can target the big fishes without any worries. You do not have to worry about it being damaged much because it is quite abrasion resistant too. The usual obstacles will not be able to take time off its durability.You will be impressed with the casting performance too. The line has low absorption which makes it sink faster. Tying knots in it is also easy but not all kinds of the knot are suitable for it.
But, tying a knot won’t reduce the knot strength much. Furthermore, you will be able to feel the fishes biting mildly as this line has good sensibility. Although the line has low memory, some customers expressed that it would be better if the line had even lesser memory. Apart from that, you can cast quite far with it as the line has a small diameter which allows you to use more of it on a spool. Are you fond of experimenting and like to try out different methods of fishing. Then, this Berkley Trilene XL line is a versatile line that you will be able to use in any way you want with baitcasters.
Furthermore, it is strong enough to deal with the larger species. You need your line to be strong enough to deal with the uncertainty and this line provides you with the strength you require. Furthermore, obstacles in your way will not stop it either as it has great abrasion resistance.
So, it is a really strong and durable line to keep for your baitcaster.You will enjoy casting with it as well. Firstly setting it up with knots is no big deal. Then, you do not worry about the line tangling either. It has low memory to help easy and long distance casts. Furthermore, the casts are quite smooth as well. However, as with, you might not get the sensitivity you require that you usually get from other types of lines.
Another trouble with it is quite visible under water and the color, according to a few customers, comes off when the line touches the water.Apart from all that, this line is a strong, affordable and functional line to take with you for different types of fishing with a baitcaster. Want to trap your target like a spider web traps its preys? Then, this line is for you. In fact, it is quite invisible underwater, so the fishes will not have a clue what hit them.
Furthermore, it has a low diameter which lets you use longer lengths of it and also keep its visibility low. However, you will be able to see it clearly over water. What will amaze is probably its strength. This line has a high strength which is mostly due to its strong braided and high-quality build. Apparently, it has an ultra smooth 8 carrier braid made from a combination of nylons, fluoropolymers, and High Molecular Weight PE fibers. As a result, its durability and strength to fight are not matters that should concern you.It has an innovative cold fusion process and casting with it is fun too.
You will like how smoothly and nicely it hits the water when you cast it. Furthermore, it is quiet too. All the more reason that the fishes will be clueless. However, there are a few problems you might face too. Some complained that the line broke way too easily. There are complaints about it being too visible as well but from a very few.
Although managing the line is quite easy and the line itself is durable, it will stain easily in dirty water.It is not the best line out there for some of its cons but it is still worth a try for the feeling it provides due to its unique build. Small is not necessarily weak and this line proves it. Are you on the lookout for a line that has a small diameter but high strength? Then, this is the line you need. You can load longer lengths of it and cast far while not sacrificing any amount of strength.
The secret behind its strength is the braided line with eight fibers in the making. Apart from that, this line has high abrasion resistance which makes it durable for long-term use. So, you not only get stronger, long casts but also durability from the same line.While casting with it is quite easy you might face a few problems. Firstly, bird nests and wind knots might occur after you cast for a while. Secondly, a few customers complained that the line broke way too easily. Other than this, the brand claims that the line has TGP technology that improves the color retaining capability of the line.
This is a good news but a customer complained that the color faded after a few casts.Therefore, as long as the line does what the brand tells it does and you get the right product, it is a great line. But, if it somehow does not, you can tell it’s bad luck on your side and inconsistency on the company’s one. If you are looking for a fluorocarbon line that does great in freshwater, then this might just be it. Apparently, it gives you the right balance between solid and soft. It is quite solid when it comes to providing you with the strength you require. Then again, it is very sensitive to the light touches of the fishes too.
You will get just what you expect from total fluorocarbon lines with this line. It has extremely low visibility underwater and there is not a single complaint about its low visibility.
Apparently, it is for a 200-yard spool and weighs 0.12 pounds.You will enjoy casting with it as it is easy to cast with and hits the water very smoothly. Furthermore, you know how fluorocarbon lines are sensitive to UV rays and other chemicals. But, this line prevents damage from these factors. However, a few customers still complained that it loses its durability too fast.
Apart from that, it performs best as a leader rather than the main line. Finally, it is super affordable! When you are fishing you do not want to alert the fishes by making noise that they are under attack. For this purpose, you need a line that casts really quietly and this is the line that does this job extremely quietly.
The fishes won’t even hear the water splashing because this line is smooth as silk and won’t make such a ruckus. Apart from that, you might think that the line must not be very strong if it is that quiet. But, you are wrong. It has a very high capability and strength and it casts like a bullet.Moreover, you can select from a number of sizes and capacities so you will find the perfect one for your baitcaster.
The line is very abrasion resistant as well. So, you do not have to worry about its durability much. However, you might have to worry about wrong handling breaking it too easily because a few customers complained about it breaking.
Another popular complaint is that the line seems to fray too easily. Although the line usually does not form wind knots or bird nests, a few customers complained that it does.Apart from the cons, the line performs really great for the cheap price it is available at. In case you are a beginner and you want a super cheap line then you can try your luck with this KastKing Masters monofilament line. Apparently, you don\'t expect a line to be functional at the price this line comes at. However, it is much better than even some expensive lines.
In fact, it provides you just the right combination of strength and durability. You cannot expect the strength of a braided line from a monofilament line but this line provides you with the best of the strengths monofilaments are capable of providing. Furthermore, it is very resistant to abrasion which makes it durable.You can also cast smoothly and far as this line has a thinner diameter so you can use longer lengths of it. It also has less memory so the number of trouble with wind knots will be low.
However, any line of a good length is susceptible to form knots and therefore, you cannot trust the low memory alone. The line has a bit too much stretch which causes trouble in case of sensibility. However, that is something all monofilaments do.In conclusion, this cheap line is great for beginner adventures as it provides a good enough assurance of good performance while not being the best. This is another cheap monofilament line that will help your beginner adventures.
Apparently, this is also a line that has great strength and also durability. It will provide you with the strength you need to fight the smaller and medium-sized fishes. Moreover, it is quite easy to handle and will provide you with a good control over the casts. Furthermore, it has a low memory which helps to reduce the number of wind knots and bird nests. The line will not break easily when serving you and that is an assurance. Forming knots in it is also very easy as it is with any other monofilament.The line, however, will decay over time due to exposure to the sun and other inevitable conditions. But, while it services you, it will barely cause any trouble.
It’s green color works really well in certain fishing areas where this color decreases visibility. Almost everyone knows that they need a good fishing line to work with a baitcaster efficiently.
But, only a few know what to look for in lines to find the best one out there. Therefore, in order for you to know of the most important factors that influence a fishing line, here is a list of them: Where Are You Going To Fish?Determining where you will fish is not important only when you are buying a baitcasting line but in any other fishing situation. You do not even travel to a place without knowing about its weather and taking the right line of clothes, do you? When it is about fishing, you have to even more careful about this. So, are you going to be fishing in clear water or sea water or ice water or whatever other kinds of water there is?
You have to determine the exact one and find a line that is best for that kind of water. What Species Are You After?After determining the place, you have to know what you are dealing with.
In fact, keep your enemies close remember? You have to know them first to determine what you need to capture them. When it comes to fishing, it is mostly the habits, size, and weight of the fish that is important for you to note down. Because the line must have features to help you deal with that particular species. The Type Of Line You Need And Prefer:There are basically four kinds of lines you get to choose from. Each of them is made with a different kind of material and has its own pros and cons.
Which kind will serve you best depends on your type of fishing and skills. So, here is a brief note on all of them:. Monofilament: This is something like the beginner’s haven. Monofilament lines are really easy to deal with because you cast using your thumb and monofilament makes it easy. Furthermore, you will rarely face any backlashes when working with it.
It does tend to form knots but you can easily get rid of these knots as this material has high stretch-ability. The problem, however, is that it is not very resistant to abrasion. So, you will need a more durable line for dealing with rougher conditions. Braided: While monofilament offers so much stretch that the sensitivity of the line gets reduced, braided lines offer no stretch and provides you with a very sensitive line.
Furthermore, it is resistant to abrasion and a very strong line. The only drawback is exposure to UV damages it and also it is very visible in the water. Fishes will be able to see it easily. Fluorocarbon: If you want your line to be invisible under water then a fluorocarbon line is what you need.
It is quite strong and durable. However, it is not the best line for baitcasting as it is more susceptible to backlashes when used with a baitcaster. Fusion: If you have ever tracked the best solution to any problem, you may have noticed that it is generally a combination of all the good features. So, in this case, a fusion line combines all the good features of the above-mentioned types of line. It is strong, durable, sensitive and also very easy to handle.
However, you cannot just one kind of feature to perform the best. This is basically great for big game fishing.Line Test:You do not want to be pulling in a huge shark with a thin like the hairline. The line will probably just break when it touches the water let alone the shark.
So, considering the species you are after, you have to choose how much pressure should the line be able to take? Because if you are after a 10-pound fish which fights with an aggressiveness of a 12-pound fish, you need a line that can withstand 12 pounds or more. So, determine what you need the line test/ breaking load to be. Line’s Length:You have the perfect test and all but you cannot even cast to where the species you are after are swimming. Therefore, the line’s length matters as well. Apart from considering how far you want to cast, you have to consider how much length your reel can take too.
Usually, there is a relationship between the line weight and length capacity written on the reel itself. Therefore, consider the length you want to cast at and the reel’s capacity. Line’s Diameter:Yes, you guessed it right; the next on this list is the diameter. We cannot leave the diameter out now, can we?
So, the diameter is also crucial for casting performance. The more the diameter the greater the friction will be. As a result, the distance covered will also be less. And, lesser the diameter the distance covered will be greater.Apart from that, the reel can hold longer lines if the line\'s diameter is less. Because it will able to accommodate more of the thinner lines. Durability:When you are casting with a baitcaster, you need the extra strength. In fact, your line has to be strong enough to not just deal with the fishes but also the strict boss- the baitcasting reel.
Therefore, it has to be very strong and durable. Furthermore, you do not want your line to break all of a sudden either. This is not just the result of the too strong fishes being aggressive but also the line quality. Therefore, to get the maximum out of what you pay for, be sure that you are buying a good quality reel with maximum durability.
Price:You will find different kinds of lines at the same price and the same quality lines at different prices. It is best to keep a moderate budget because when it comes to lines, not all expensive ones are great and not all cheap ones are bad. All you have to is neither be too frugal nor be too extravagant and just have a good judging eye. You already know what a fishing line does.
In fact, it would not be possible for you to fish with a reel without a line. So, the benefits you will enjoy in this case are from buying a fishing line that is particularly suitable for a baitcaster. The reason is that baitcasters have different requirements than a spinning reel. So, the benefits are: More Strength:As you already know that baitcasters are stronger than spinning reels. Therefore, the line it uses should also be able to handle the enhanced power and strength requirements. A baitcaster with a weak line will just be useless. Therefore, lines that are great for baitcaster are naturally very strong.
More Abrasion Resistance:Baitcaster come handy in rough water conditions while fighting tougher fishes. In fact, it is not just the fishes that the baitcaster has to fight but it has to fight with the other environmental conditions as well. Therefore, lines suitable for baitcasters have more abrasion-resistant properties than other lines. So, the best fishing line for baitcasters will delight you with its abrasion resistance. When you are at war, you have to make sure each of the weapons you use is as best as it can be. So, when you are fishing with a baitcasting reel, the reel will not perform its best if you pair it up with a line that is not perfect for it.The line should not just be the right fit but should be of high quality and efficiency as well. It is only knowledge and experience that can help you find the best fishing line for baitcaster.You now have the knowledge to go out there and gather the experience you need by experimenting.
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Click to expand. Hopefully it is better than the II. Skyrim height scale. I have had mine for a year and the nut that holds the rotor on kept loosening. Had to put loctite on it. And the spool does not ride high enough. The line tapers from half a spool at the base to a full spool at the top of it.It also just seems to be built lighter than a lot of other reels.
Nothing has broke and it has held up to a bunch of carp up to 30lbs and one over 40. But it was the max for it.
Did not think it was going to get the 40 in. This was a 5000 series spinning reel. Click to expand.I use their Rover 6000 baitcaster as well as many of their Spinning reels. I have the catfish edition of Abu Garcia and love it and I use the following Spinning reels. Abu Garcia Cardinals, Shimano Sedona and Libra Tica for everything from bass fishing to panfishing.
I also use the Kastking Sharky, Kastking Centron, and Pontus. I have NEVER had an issue finding parts for my kastking reels. All you have to do is contact eposeidon.com, they\'re the US dealers for KastKing.
To be honest, I\'ve only had to replace one piece and it was my own fault and the piece I replaced was a rod. I broke it and they stand behind their equipment so well that they replaced the rod for me and didn\'t even charge shipping. I would put the baitcaster up against ANY reel, even the 200-300 buck reels and I have NEVER had a spinning reel with a retrieve as smooth as the 2017 Centron reels have. I put the Rover on a medium heavy rippin lips rod, I have one of the Sharky 5000 on a Rippin Lips Spinning rod, I have the 3000 Centron and 3000 Pontus on Ugly Stick GX2. I use their mono line, their braided line, and the fluorocarbon line and I love it. I\'m a hardcore hunter and fisherman from Eastern, KY and my equipment works like a bank mule but I also clean and maintain my equipment in a more than regular basis.
Anything will last you a long long time if you treat it with the respect it deserves. Anything I spend my hard earned money on I take good care of. Those coal mines aren\'t easy work.
Good fishing and I hope this helps you some. Someone posted on here. You get what you pay for, that\'s not always true because sometimes you\'re paying for 90% brand name and 10% product. I\'ve seen subpar items on everything from my fishing and hunting equipment to my golf or ATV equipment. It\'s been a long time coming, but I finally had a few minutes this afternoon to make it to a nearby lake to do the Kastking vs. Abu comparison. As I posted back in December, I have 4 Whisker Seeker MH rods, 2 with KK50Rs and 2 with 6500C3s.
To keep things as even as I could, 1 of each is spooled with 20lb Berkley Big Game and 30lb Whisker Seeker mono. These monos are the same diameter, so that hopefully provided a bit of \'baseline\' for the test. All casts were made using a 2 ounce no roll sinker with no terminal tackle.I wasn\'t fishing, just casting.
I wanted to see how the line / reel combo on identical rods affected casting distance, casting ease, and things like that. This was NOT a scientific evaluation, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. Better yet, take it with a pinch of salt.The rods:The venue:Not sure if you can see it, but there is a \'fish attractor\' buoy probably 40 yards from the dock. That was my referent point for casts.I started with the Abu BBG combo. Let \'er rip 3 times and easily sailed well past the buoy. I\'m going to guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 yards?
I wish I had a football field or something to conduct the test on, but I don\'t. I\'m just thankful that I at least had the buoy there as some sort of visual reference point!Before the cast:After the cast:At this point that I decided to try one cast on each rod and intentionally let it overrun just to see what would happen.Next up was the Abu with WS mono.
I forgot to take pictures. It definitely cast a bit further than the BBG, but not much. Certainly not enough to justify the increased price, if casting distance alone is the only thing you\'re taking into account (though I\'m sure it isn\'t).Abu WS overrun:Next up was the KK BBG combo.
Let \'er rip 3 times, hard.Before the cast:After the cast:Then, it was time to let the KK BBG overrun. Had to split the post because the forum wouldn’t let me add but so many pictures to the first So, on to part two.Next up, and last up, was the KK WS combo.
Again, 3 very hard casts.Before:After:Intentional overrun:My probably biased, totally unscientific impressions:First, the Abu. I’ve fished with these reels numerous times. They are the kind of reels that not only look good, but they make you look good.As the pictures show, it’s all but impossible to get the Abu to overrun / backlash / birds nest / whatever you want to call it.
I flung that lead HARD and didn’t touch the spool a bit. And you see the results yourself. I should add, I’ve never messed with the centrifugal brakes on either reel, so they’re at whatever setting they came at from the factory.What you can’t see in the pictures, you can hear and feel in the casts and retrieves. The Abu’s are nearly silent both going out and coming back in. Everything feels “tight” and there is no slop in the gears, anti reverse, or spool.
It just feels like a quality piece of kit. I also really like the handle on the Abu’s. They are somewhat smaller than the Kastking both as far as the knobs goes, and the distance between the two. They are also bent in toward the reel, making for a very natural feeling as you reel in all that line you just sent flying. I know a lot of guys like to replace the standard handle with a power handle. I have zero experience with power handles.
I figure if Steve Douglas can reel in those monster blues on his Bass Pro Catmaxx reels and their tiny handles, I can use the stock Abu handles just fine.In my opinion, the thumb rest is a much appreciated as you’re reeling in. The 6500C3 is small enough that an average man can grip the rod blank, and the reel at the same time, making it feel quite natural in the hand.The spool release button does require two hand operation, as your casting thumb has to remain on the spool when you depress it, otherwise your rig ends up in the drink or the dirt before you can even get your cast off. But this is a minor issue and one that quickly becomes second nature.Next, the Kastking Rover. The first thing I noticed when I went to cast is the KK takes a lot more adjustment to get reel ready to cast. Unlike the 6500C3, the Rover 50R has the spool tension knob on both sides of the reel. I have other reels like this and love it, so I thought I would actually prefer it to the Abu that doesn’t have that option. But these are almost non-responsive.
Turn and turn and turn and 2oz of lead still falls like it just got pushed off a table top. Finally it will start to add some resistance but then you back off the tiniest bit, and it’s free falling again.
I did my best to get the drop to match the Abu’s so that the comparison would be as even as possible.Then there’s the actual cast. The immediate thing you notice is that the KK is much noisier than the Abu. As I’ve already said, the Abus are very quiet, both casting and reeling.
The KK\'s gears make a pretty good whine both on casting and retrieving. Also, there felt like there was a good bit more \'slop\' in the KK reels. The handle knobs are much larger, not as comfortable in my hand, and the striaght cross bar combined with the over all larger handle made for a less comfortable retrieve.
Now don’t get me wrong, it’s not as if I all of the sudden couldn’t reel in my line. But given the option, the KK is definitely not as pleasant to reel up repeatedly.Now, you’ve probably already noticed the biggest difference between the KK and the Abu: overruns.
They actually don’t look as bad in the pictures, but they were both quite a mess and took a few minutes to undo. Granted, I ripped that lead out there and just let the spool go with no help whatsoever from my thumb. But compared to the Abu, there was a substantial difference. I couldn’t make my Abu’s overrun if I tried. These KK’s, you’d better be paying attention, or you might be wasting precious time on the water undoing your mistake.One thing I did like about them, perhaps more than the Abu, is the thumb bar spool release button.
While not a huge deal, it is nice to be able to simultaneously release the spool and catch it with your thumb. It certainly removes the need for reaching around with your off-hand during the casting process. It’s small, but I did enjoy it.But then there’s the downside. I suppose by moving the spool release to the thumb bar style, the KK can’t also have the off-hand thumb rest like the Abu. Not a huge deal, as you can just rest your thumb on the frame itself on the KK (there’s no clicker there to get in your way; the KK clicker is over on the side of the frame, opposite the handle). Given the option, I’d rather have the thumb rest than the thumb bar release.
But that’s just me.Now, about the lines. Was there any noticeable difference between Berkley Big Game which retails for around $7 for 650 yards of 20lb and the Whisker Seeker which retails for $17 for 500 yards of 30lb? I would say yes, there was a noticeable, though admittedly slight, difference. The WS seemed to consistently cast just a few yards further than the BBG.
And by few, I do mean few. Perhaps 10 at most? I’m not sure, as I said before, I wasn’t on a field or something where things could be measured, just using my eye to judge where each cast landed beyond the buoy. Keeping in mind that the BBG 20lb and the WS 30lb are the same diameter, this was interesting to me. Perhaps something else about the line was contributing to this (stretch?
Something else?) I don’t know. Is it worth the extra $10 to go with WS over BBG? I guess that depends on how much you like orange! And what other features show up in real-world fishing situations, not mere casting competitions. I can tell you this much, I won’t be unspooling the BBG from the reels these reels to replace them with WS just yet.
I want to see what happens going forward. And only if I can see some real benefits will I be willing to spend the extra money again in the future.The verdict on the KK vs Abu? That’s for you to decide.If you are new to baitcasting reels, I would probably steer you toward the Abu.
I honestly believe you will have far fewer headaches thanks to its aversion to overruns.
When you are looking for more control and challenge while fishing, you usually go after a baitcasting reel. Because baitcasting offers you with more strength and control than a spinning reel does. You will want a baitcasting reel to work with as you climb up the ladder of skill. However, baitcasting reels themselves require skill to be managed well. In fact, you have to practice for a while with it to get the best results.
If you do not master it well enough, you will never be satisfied by fishing with it.However, it is not just your skills that will help but also the quality of your reel and the materials you use with it. Apparently, the fishing line plays an important role when you are fishing with a baitcaster. Since baitcasting reels are delicate instruments and harder to handle, you have to make sure each component of it is perfect. Now, the type of line you need to use does not just depend on the baitcasting reel itself but also how you fish and what you fish. So, in order to score high in the fishing arena, you must have the best fishing line for baitcaster.
How safe do you think you will feel when you wear a bullet proof vest? Apparently, this KastKing SuperPower braided line is made of braided polyethylene fiber which also makes bulletproof vests. So, you can expect similar damage resistance from this line. What will amaze you about this line is its strength, durability and the knots.
You will be able to make any kind of knots easily with it. Although some of the strength does decrease with knots, it won’t affect the performance.The line has zero stretch which makes it very sensitive. So, you will be able to feel even the slightest pecks. Furthermore, it has less memory which allows you to cast smooth. You will be able to use longer lines and cast further because the diameter of this line is quite small. It has tests ranging from 10-150 lbs. Furthermore, it is available in a number of colors so you can choose the perfect size and color for the place you are fishing at.
Apart from that, what you might face trouble with is the line breaking as a few customers did. Also, you might find the line thicker than you expected it to be.For the price, this line provides you with better quality and performance that you will expect and barely gives you reasons to complain about.
Unless it does not fit your requirements. If you are looking for a line to go after the big and aggressive fishes, the Big Game monofilament custom spool line can serve you well. Apparently, the line has a good strength rating which is also quite accurate. No one ever had any complaints regarding the strength, control, and confidence this line provides. Furthermore, if it bumps into something sharp or tough underwater, it won’t disappoint you by breaking right there. In fact, it is very shock-absorbent and also abrasion-resistant.
As a result, it provides you with the durability you require on those tough and wild fishing sessions. It has a 60 lb test and it works best when used for this range.Making a knot with it for holding the lure is also quite easy. However, although the brand claims that the line has low memory, most customers who had anything bad to point out complained that they have never seen as much memory as this line has.
So, this could cause trouble in your casting performance. But, most has a good fishing time anyway. Apart from that, some complained that the line has no stretch as a monofilament line should have and is prone to wind knots and getting tangled up. The positive side of it having no stretch is that it will have better sensitivity.Although this line does have a few cons, for the price and strength, it is something that makes most anglers happy. If you want to catch fish like a sniper, this is the line that can act as your sniping weapon. In fact, this FluoroKote line has the fluorocarbon which keeps its visibility low in the water.
So, the fishes won’t have a clue what awaits them, what’s dragging them and what they need to fight. Furthermore, the line has high strength as well. So, you can target the big fishes without any worries. You do not have to worry about it being damaged much because it is quite abrasion resistant too. The usual obstacles will not be able to take time off its durability.You will be impressed with the casting performance too. The line has low absorption which makes it sink faster. Tying knots in it is also easy but not all kinds of the knot are suitable for it.
But, tying a knot won’t reduce the knot strength much. Furthermore, you will be able to feel the fishes biting mildly as this line has good sensibility. Although the line has low memory, some customers expressed that it would be better if the line had even lesser memory. Apart from that, you can cast quite far with it as the line has a small diameter which allows you to use more of it on a spool. Are you fond of experimenting and like to try out different methods of fishing. Then, this Berkley Trilene XL line is a versatile line that you will be able to use in any way you want with baitcasters.
Furthermore, it is strong enough to deal with the larger species. You need your line to be strong enough to deal with the uncertainty and this line provides you with the strength you require. Furthermore, obstacles in your way will not stop it either as it has great abrasion resistance.
So, it is a really strong and durable line to keep for your baitcaster.You will enjoy casting with it as well. Firstly setting it up with knots is no big deal. Then, you do not worry about the line tangling either. It has low memory to help easy and long distance casts. Furthermore, the casts are quite smooth as well. However, as with, you might not get the sensitivity you require that you usually get from other types of lines.
Another trouble with it is quite visible under water and the color, according to a few customers, comes off when the line touches the water.Apart from all that, this line is a strong, affordable and functional line to take with you for different types of fishing with a baitcaster. Want to trap your target like a spider web traps its preys? Then, this line is for you. In fact, it is quite invisible underwater, so the fishes will not have a clue what hit them.
Furthermore, it has a low diameter which lets you use longer lengths of it and also keep its visibility low. However, you will be able to see it clearly over water. What will amaze is probably its strength. This line has a high strength which is mostly due to its strong braided and high-quality build. Apparently, it has an ultra smooth 8 carrier braid made from a combination of nylons, fluoropolymers, and High Molecular Weight PE fibers. As a result, its durability and strength to fight are not matters that should concern you.It has an innovative cold fusion process and casting with it is fun too.
You will like how smoothly and nicely it hits the water when you cast it. Furthermore, it is quiet too. All the more reason that the fishes will be clueless. However, there are a few problems you might face too. Some complained that the line broke way too easily. There are complaints about it being too visible as well but from a very few.
Although managing the line is quite easy and the line itself is durable, it will stain easily in dirty water.It is not the best line out there for some of its cons but it is still worth a try for the feeling it provides due to its unique build. Small is not necessarily weak and this line proves it. Are you on the lookout for a line that has a small diameter but high strength? Then, this is the line you need. You can load longer lengths of it and cast far while not sacrificing any amount of strength.
The secret behind its strength is the braided line with eight fibers in the making. Apart from that, this line has high abrasion resistance which makes it durable for long-term use. So, you not only get stronger, long casts but also durability from the same line.While casting with it is quite easy you might face a few problems. Firstly, bird nests and wind knots might occur after you cast for a while. Secondly, a few customers complained that the line broke way too easily. Other than this, the brand claims that the line has TGP technology that improves the color retaining capability of the line.
This is a good news but a customer complained that the color faded after a few casts.Therefore, as long as the line does what the brand tells it does and you get the right product, it is a great line. But, if it somehow does not, you can tell it’s bad luck on your side and inconsistency on the company’s one. If you are looking for a fluorocarbon line that does great in freshwater, then this might just be it. Apparently, it gives you the right balance between solid and soft. It is quite solid when it comes to providing you with the strength you require. Then again, it is very sensitive to the light touches of the fishes too.
You will get just what you expect from total fluorocarbon lines with this line. It has extremely low visibility underwater and there is not a single complaint about its low visibility.
Apparently, it is for a 200-yard spool and weighs 0.12 pounds.You will enjoy casting with it as it is easy to cast with and hits the water very smoothly. Furthermore, you know how fluorocarbon lines are sensitive to UV rays and other chemicals. But, this line prevents damage from these factors. However, a few customers still complained that it loses its durability too fast.
Apart from that, it performs best as a leader rather than the main line. Finally, it is super affordable! When you are fishing you do not want to alert the fishes by making noise that they are under attack. For this purpose, you need a line that casts really quietly and this is the line that does this job extremely quietly.
The fishes won’t even hear the water splashing because this line is smooth as silk and won’t make such a ruckus. Apart from that, you might think that the line must not be very strong if it is that quiet. But, you are wrong. It has a very high capability and strength and it casts like a bullet.Moreover, you can select from a number of sizes and capacities so you will find the perfect one for your baitcaster.
The line is very abrasion resistant as well. So, you do not have to worry about its durability much. However, you might have to worry about wrong handling breaking it too easily because a few customers complained about it breaking.
Another popular complaint is that the line seems to fray too easily. Although the line usually does not form wind knots or bird nests, a few customers complained that it does.Apart from the cons, the line performs really great for the cheap price it is available at. In case you are a beginner and you want a super cheap line then you can try your luck with this KastKing Masters monofilament line. Apparently, you don\'t expect a line to be functional at the price this line comes at. However, it is much better than even some expensive lines.
In fact, it provides you just the right combination of strength and durability. You cannot expect the strength of a braided line from a monofilament line but this line provides you with the best of the strengths monofilaments are capable of providing. Furthermore, it is very resistant to abrasion which makes it durable.You can also cast smoothly and far as this line has a thinner diameter so you can use longer lengths of it. It also has less memory so the number of trouble with wind knots will be low.
However, any line of a good length is susceptible to form knots and therefore, you cannot trust the low memory alone. The line has a bit too much stretch which causes trouble in case of sensibility. However, that is something all monofilaments do.In conclusion, this cheap line is great for beginner adventures as it provides a good enough assurance of good performance while not being the best. This is another cheap monofilament line that will help your beginner adventures.
Apparently, this is also a line that has great strength and also durability. It will provide you with the strength you need to fight the smaller and medium-sized fishes. Moreover, it is quite easy to handle and will provide you with a good control over the casts. Furthermore, it has a low memory which helps to reduce the number of wind knots and bird nests. The line will not break easily when serving you and that is an assurance. Forming knots in it is also very easy as it is with any other monofilament.The line, however, will decay over time due to exposure to the sun and other inevitable conditions. But, while it services you, it will barely cause any trouble.
It’s green color works really well in certain fishing areas where this color decreases visibility. Almost everyone knows that they need a good fishing line to work with a baitcaster efficiently.
But, only a few know what to look for in lines to find the best one out there. Therefore, in order for you to know of the most important factors that influence a fishing line, here is a list of them: Where Are You Going To Fish?Determining where you will fish is not important only when you are buying a baitcasting line but in any other fishing situation. You do not even travel to a place without knowing about its weather and taking the right line of clothes, do you? When it is about fishing, you have to even more careful about this. So, are you going to be fishing in clear water or sea water or ice water or whatever other kinds of water there is?
You have to determine the exact one and find a line that is best for that kind of water. What Species Are You After?After determining the place, you have to know what you are dealing with.
In fact, keep your enemies close remember? You have to know them first to determine what you need to capture them. When it comes to fishing, it is mostly the habits, size, and weight of the fish that is important for you to note down. Because the line must have features to help you deal with that particular species. The Type Of Line You Need And Prefer:There are basically four kinds of lines you get to choose from. Each of them is made with a different kind of material and has its own pros and cons.
Which kind will serve you best depends on your type of fishing and skills. So, here is a brief note on all of them:. Monofilament: This is something like the beginner’s haven. Monofilament lines are really easy to deal with because you cast using your thumb and monofilament makes it easy. Furthermore, you will rarely face any backlashes when working with it.
It does tend to form knots but you can easily get rid of these knots as this material has high stretch-ability. The problem, however, is that it is not very resistant to abrasion. So, you will need a more durable line for dealing with rougher conditions. Braided: While monofilament offers so much stretch that the sensitivity of the line gets reduced, braided lines offer no stretch and provides you with a very sensitive line.
Furthermore, it is resistant to abrasion and a very strong line. The only drawback is exposure to UV damages it and also it is very visible in the water. Fishes will be able to see it easily. Fluorocarbon: If you want your line to be invisible under water then a fluorocarbon line is what you need.
It is quite strong and durable. However, it is not the best line for baitcasting as it is more susceptible to backlashes when used with a baitcaster. Fusion: If you have ever tracked the best solution to any problem, you may have noticed that it is generally a combination of all the good features. So, in this case, a fusion line combines all the good features of the above-mentioned types of line. It is strong, durable, sensitive and also very easy to handle.
However, you cannot just one kind of feature to perform the best. This is basically great for big game fishing.Line Test:You do not want to be pulling in a huge shark with a thin like the hairline. The line will probably just break when it touches the water let alone the shark.
So, considering the species you are after, you have to choose how much pressure should the line be able to take? Because if you are after a 10-pound fish which fights with an aggressiveness of a 12-pound fish, you need a line that can withstand 12 pounds or more. So, determine what you need the line test/ breaking load to be. Line’s Length:You have the perfect test and all but you cannot even cast to where the species you are after are swimming. Therefore, the line’s length matters as well. Apart from considering how far you want to cast, you have to consider how much length your reel can take too.
Usually, there is a relationship between the line weight and length capacity written on the reel itself. Therefore, consider the length you want to cast at and the reel’s capacity. Line’s Diameter:Yes, you guessed it right; the next on this list is the diameter. We cannot leave the diameter out now, can we?
So, the diameter is also crucial for casting performance. The more the diameter the greater the friction will be. As a result, the distance covered will also be less. And, lesser the diameter the distance covered will be greater.Apart from that, the reel can hold longer lines if the line\'s diameter is less. Because it will able to accommodate more of the thinner lines. Durability:When you are casting with a baitcaster, you need the extra strength. In fact, your line has to be strong enough to not just deal with the fishes but also the strict boss- the baitcasting reel.
Therefore, it has to be very strong and durable. Furthermore, you do not want your line to break all of a sudden either. This is not just the result of the too strong fishes being aggressive but also the line quality. Therefore, to get the maximum out of what you pay for, be sure that you are buying a good quality reel with maximum durability.
Price:You will find different kinds of lines at the same price and the same quality lines at different prices. It is best to keep a moderate budget because when it comes to lines, not all expensive ones are great and not all cheap ones are bad. All you have to is neither be too frugal nor be too extravagant and just have a good judging eye. You already know what a fishing line does.
In fact, it would not be possible for you to fish with a reel without a line. So, the benefits you will enjoy in this case are from buying a fishing line that is particularly suitable for a baitcaster. The reason is that baitcasters have different requirements than a spinning reel. So, the benefits are: More Strength:As you already know that baitcasters are stronger than spinning reels. Therefore, the line it uses should also be able to handle the enhanced power and strength requirements. A baitcaster with a weak line will just be useless. Therefore, lines that are great for baitcaster are naturally very strong.
More Abrasion Resistance:Baitcaster come handy in rough water conditions while fighting tougher fishes. In fact, it is not just the fishes that the baitcaster has to fight but it has to fight with the other environmental conditions as well. Therefore, lines suitable for baitcasters have more abrasion-resistant properties than other lines. So, the best fishing line for baitcasters will delight you with its abrasion resistance. When you are at war, you have to make sure each of the weapons you use is as best as it can be. So, when you are fishing with a baitcasting reel, the reel will not perform its best if you pair it up with a line that is not perfect for it.The line should not just be the right fit but should be of high quality and efficiency as well. It is only knowledge and experience that can help you find the best fishing line for baitcaster.You now have the knowledge to go out there and gather the experience you need by experimenting.
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